tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post3855889982581671528..comments2024-01-05T10:11:27.498+00:00Comments on Soot and Ashes: The World AFTER the Crash: 2009 Detroit Michigan. An American city dies.bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06585266242070350399noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-58199488459940858022009-05-13T22:03:00.000+01:002009-05-13T22:03:00.000+01:00http://tinyurl.com/pf58xr
GM moves to China.http://tinyurl.com/pf58xr<br /><br />GM moves to China.gutless and lazynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-33989991285330059462009-05-13T16:23:00.000+01:002009-05-13T16:23:00.000+01:00One day Americans will riot for jobs. One day we ...One day Americans will riot for jobs. One day we will kidnap CEOs and demand they stop laying people off to pad their already filthy, fat bulging wallets.<br /><br />If we demand American made goods, then corporations will make stuff in America. They want profit, but they could give a rats ass about workers; so we need to make our selves (workers) valuable in the chain of their profit machine.<br /><br />One day someone will write a book documenting the brainwashing of 90% of the US population by corporations. Corps have done the unthinkable, they have convinced us to hate the fruits of each others labor and too hate well paid jobs and benefits.<br /><br />Somehow they got us to work for their end game of greed. Isn't it bizaar? Sureal?<br /><br />GT CharlieRt.66https://www.blogger.com/profile/08442371951020691408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-54905187489744808552009-05-13T10:42:00.000+01:002009-05-13T10:42:00.000+01:00Quote from Dumb-Ass:
"...Mark from Michigan said.....Quote from Dumb-Ass:<br />"...Mark from Michigan said...<br /><br /> As the son of a GM retiree, I don't want to see GM go down. However, I can look forward to watching all of you import lovers crying in your beer when you get what you want.<br /><br />..., so I hope your toyo-honda-mitsusushi lasts a looong time, because the next one will cost alot more."<br /><br />-----<br /><br />My Toyota will last a looong looong looong time because it is a reliable, durable piece of art, unlike the piece of shit that your daddy built or pretended to build. I have a Toyota Corolla LE 1999 bought brand new, drove out from the dealer's parking lot for $16,200 all paid in cash at the dealer's cashier window. That Toyota is currently clocking 216,000 miles in 9 years and get me 35 miles per gallon. I had to replace a starter on the car and the usual tires, 1 battery, oil change, etc... I have not had tune-up on the car for 2 years and it seems like it is running fine. So "Mark from Michigan", can your dad beat that or you, as his son, beat that ?<br /><br />You know what you are, "Mark from Michigan" ? You are a pathetic attempt of what we call 'Blind Patriotism'. And it usually occurs within the group of uneducated, ignorant, low life human beings.randall666flaggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-47533654603356089592009-05-13T05:51:00.000+01:002009-05-13T05:51:00.000+01:00I just made an interesting trip through S W Texas ...I just made an interesting trip through S W Texas on the back roads. There are still lots of oil and gas wells, I mean thousands, most not pumping since the prices have dropped. But they are also drilling new ones.<br /><br />Obviously there was a boom when there was discovery with much development and you can see the old small towns from that era, now completely abandoned and falling to pieces and looking like Mad-Max. But most of the wells are still there, more or less automated, with occasional maintenance and pick-ups from tanker trucks.<br /><br />The sad fact-of-life is that most people are needed more for consuming than for working, whatever the reason is, the equation doesn't balance. When you aren't needed anymore, you leave and either go a newer, different direction or die. Such is the cruelty of life. Ultimately, it comes down to innovation and production, so-called progress.<br /><br />Some of those old towns sure look like they were a vibrant and active place to be at one time, but time has changed it's tide and they were all swept away, seems like such a waste to just throw away lives and the way they had things. Money has no loyalty to anyone, ever, it's the nature of survival and it's the nature of greed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-25302827748659513362009-05-13T05:36:00.000+01:002009-05-13T05:36:00.000+01:00The fall of the Thunder Dome - will be felt world-...The fall of the Thunder Dome - will be felt world-wide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-34379325686406459442009-05-13T04:09:00.000+01:002009-05-13T04:09:00.000+01:00There are hundreds of towns in America that have b...There are hundreds of towns in America that have been abandoned. Hence the term ghost towns. The Old West is full of them. Towns and cities are fluid entities with a lifespan. They grow and decline with the times, the economy, and the changing needs of the people. Business moves to a more profitable location, and the people move with it. Unfortunately this movement usually leaves behind the unfortunates who cannot afford to go along, and they become stuck in the corpse of the city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-60289908206734256352009-05-13T02:37:00.000+01:002009-05-13T02:37:00.000+01:00"...BO is going to go all out to save GM..."<A HREF="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1033-Holding-GM-Debt-Gubbermint-Is-Robbing-You!.html" REL="nofollow">"...BO is going to go all out to save GM..."</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-33322071889826586002009-05-13T01:29:00.000+01:002009-05-13T01:29:00.000+01:00Thank god, after 30% of Americans lose their jobs,...Thank god, after 30% of Americans lose their jobs, they will all buy iPhones and carry a $300 AT&T bill to text message and play with widgets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-54137472880868223802009-05-13T01:25:00.000+01:002009-05-13T01:25:00.000+01:00Next, California:
LA Times -- Mayor Villaraigosa ...Next, California:<br /><br /><B>LA Times -- Mayor Villaraigosa wants council to declare emergency and calls for layoffs<br /><br />Citing a $529-million budget deficit, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa urged the City Council on Tuesday to declare a fiscal emergency and called for mandatory work furloughs and layoffs.<br /><br />"The gravity of the fiscal emergency that we face is enormous," Villaraigosa said. "Unless we act with urgency, the city will face a cash flow crisis, raising the prospect of running out of cash between November and February. "</B>Buh buh buh I thought that the rest of the country should follow the Californian ultraliberal model. What happened? You guys always sold Pelosi, Feinstein, and Boxer as true geniuses! What's wrong now?<br /><br />The brilliant ultraliberal concept of pumping millions and millions of illiterate illegals, who breed like flies and send 90% of their tax free earnings back to their countries of origin, isn't working? I'm totally shocked!<br /><br />My gosh, as a good slave, I need to check the twitter of Kutcher, Demi, Oprah, and all the other $10k handbag liberal celebs to find out what to do now. Perhaps limousine Bill Maher will tell me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-58898127669835754652009-05-13T01:14:00.000+01:002009-05-13T01:14:00.000+01:00Detroit is a sample of what is coming to a city ne...Detroit is a sample of what is coming to a city near you.<br />The reason why you won't see the recovery in housing or industry that you expect is simple math.<br />The baby boomers are the largest group. They are getting old and retiring. They have the greatest amount of wealth, jobs, health care, etc.<br />The up and coming groups behind them are not as numerous, not as wealthy, don't work full time, are paying off hugh loans for college, don't have health care and cannot afford the same lifestyle as the baby boomers. COLLAPSE is inevitable. <br />You can't save the economy with less, you need more, it's that simple.Mycroft Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00158012528747048036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-61476533001256659402009-05-13T00:47:00.000+01:002009-05-13T00:47:00.000+01:00time for Robocop!time for Robocop!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-31531504264815219642009-05-12T21:37:00.000+01:002009-05-12T21:37:00.000+01:00I always wanted a crushed car for a coffee table. ...I always wanted a crushed car for a coffee table. It might be too heavy unless you gutted it out and just left the crushed shell. Maybe a new assembly line in the works...? :)patratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-40524840911321789742009-05-12T21:33:00.000+01:002009-05-12T21:33:00.000+01:00Trust me, there will be a white collar bust town i...Trust me, there will be a white collar bust town in the future. <br /><br />My prediction... Boston. Here's why, it's poorer neighbor, Providence, once a haven for religious freedom seekers, etc, had turned into a rust belt post-industrial wastage zone, along with other nearby towns in MA like Worcester, Fall River, etc but still, places like Newport RI kept its tourists and the same goes for Hyannis MA. There's a major illusion of wealth in this pocket of the country.<br /><br />Now, why is this area not like Detroit or Erie PA... simple, socialistic jobs like academia (the prime industry for eastern MA), healthcare (see tax on working middle class), and finally, regular white collar work at Fidelity, State St, etc. <br /><br />I suspect that this won't continue. What happened to the Worcesters, the Providences, etc, will affect the white collar Boston because in effect, real estate is too expensive and MIT/Harvard/Tufts has incentives to work with local industries to send hi-end jobs abroad. This had started at the beginning of the housing run up and now, will begin to accelerate as the remaining positions in the regions go to cheaper locales.<br /><br />All and all, the Detroit effect will be nationwide as urban centers seize to provide an adequate reason for its density, since the Net has made everyone a remote employee where a person can login at Tulsa OK and be seen as working in NYC or Boston but at half the cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-22688763608248885242009-05-12T20:09:00.000+01:002009-05-12T20:09:00.000+01:00The blame should be placed on the white-collar wor...The blame should be placed on the white-collar workers in Detroit.<br /><br />Complete failure in financing.<br /><br />Complete failure in trend analysis/marketing.<br /><br />Complete failure in developing new or improved technology.<br /><br />Failure in design and style.lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-847842871510575392009-05-12T20:06:00.000+01:002009-05-12T20:06:00.000+01:00As the son of a GM retiree, I don't want to see GM...As the son of a GM retiree, I don't want to see GM go down. However, I can look forward to watching all of you import lovers crying in your beer when you get what you want. <br /><br />Good luck with those chinese cars and fiats that you'll be paying top-dollar for. <br /><br />If you think GM's union workers made crap, wait till you see the chinese/thai/indian crap.<br /><br />Japanese brands will go upscale when this happens,just like US automakers did- because they can't compete with the low wages either, so I hope your toyo-honda-mitsusushi lasts a looong time, because the next one will cost alot more. <br /><br /> Overcapacity had the effect of keeping a lid on prices. Guess who lost more money than GM in the fourth quarter?<br /><br /><br />T(oo)<br />O(ften)<br />Y(ankees)<br />O(verprice)<br />T(hese)<br />A(utomobiles)Mark from Michiganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844058548107616498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-38640147798934521212009-05-12T19:45:00.000+01:002009-05-12T19:45:00.000+01:00"What kinds of cars would a GM headquartered in Re..."What kinds of cars would a GM headquartered in Redwood, WA or Silicon Valley look like? Certainly not like the mess they have been producing for the past 30 years."<br /><br />Yeah, more like those little "smart cars" but with the price tag of an Escalade.nemachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05714327305611016116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-79292987271500709132009-05-12T19:40:00.000+01:002009-05-12T19:40:00.000+01:00ford has an outside chance of surviving if it wasn...ford has an outside chance of surviving if it wasn't for the government meddling with gm.<br /><br />it is clear that BO is going to go all out to save GM which will kill ford in the end.<br /><br />via government funding GM will offer sweetheart financing that ford will not be able to match.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-24294103434455491132009-05-12T19:36:00.000+01:002009-05-12T19:36:00.000+01:00hmmm...no tears over all the other dead towns and ...hmmm...no tears over all the other dead towns and cities in america.<br /><br />my hometown of greenwood, mississippi was once the cotton capitol of the world like 60 years ago.<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />and my home town in oregon was once a booming lumber town.<br /><br />times change.<br /><br />change with them or die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-7124815491124395352009-05-12T19:35:00.000+01:002009-05-12T19:35:00.000+01:00when will M&M have a "Detriot-aid" c...when will M&M have a "Detriot-aid" concert?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-52134942972311706192009-05-12T19:11:00.000+01:002009-05-12T19:11:00.000+01:00hmmm...no tears over all the other dead towns and ...hmmm...no tears over all the other dead towns and cities in america.<br /><br />my hometown of greenwood, mississippi was once the cotton capitol of the world like 60 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-52293550875854666842009-05-12T18:57:00.000+01:002009-05-12T18:57:00.000+01:00"Anonymous said...
Correction to my previous post..."Anonymous said... <br />Correction to my previous post:<br /><br />GM wants to close 14 plants and move 4 of them to China. <br /><br />Let's be reasonable."<br /><br />Fuck Reasonable.<br /><br />Vote with your wallet. Don't buy their shit boxes no matter what.<br /><br />KILL GM ONCE AND FOR ALL.<br /><br />and same goes for UAW. DIE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-66118321222094271992009-05-12T18:09:00.000+01:002009-05-12T18:09:00.000+01:00shouldn't all the gm employees now be counted as g...shouldn't all the gm employees now be counted as government employees?<br /><br />perhaps Massachusetts can start giving GM cars to it's welfare recipients. at a minimum I hope Mass. isn't giving foreign made cars to it's welfare recipients.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-55543812159283498032009-05-12T18:04:00.000+01:002009-05-12T18:04:00.000+01:00BTW
I am not a union member. UAW and GM both at f...BTW<br /><br />I am not a union member. UAW and GM both at fault in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-49317687729745149922009-05-12T17:45:00.000+01:002009-05-12T17:45:00.000+01:00Correction to my previous post:
GM wants to close...Correction to my previous post:<br /><br />GM wants to close 14 plants and move 4 of them to China. <br /><br />Let's be reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6568749253826790814.post-16230705147147764892009-05-12T17:20:00.000+01:002009-05-12T17:20:00.000+01:00And, to all of you who want to see the American ca...And, to all of you who want to see the American car companies die off and/or all the others making fun of Detroit, just wait - it will soon be coming to a city near you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com