December 26, 2008
"None of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died, and the rest of us will be cannibals"
"We'll have eight degrees -- we'll be eight degrees hotter in 10 -- not 10, but in 30 or 40 years. And basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died, and the rest of us will be cannibals.
"Civilization will have broken down. The few people left will be living in a failed state like Somalia or Sudan, and living conditions will be intolerable.
"The droughts will be so bad, there will be no more corn growing. It will -- not doing it is suicide. Just like dropping bombs on each other, nuclear weapons, is suicide. So, we've got to stop doing the two suicidal things, which are hanging on to our nuclear weapons, and then after that we've got to stabilize the population."
- Ted Turner on global warming, 2008
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He's a crazy old mofo.
The latest indications indicate a cooling trend, not a warming one.
32 degrees in Los Angeles in December and subzero temperatures in the tidewater are not indicative of "warming."
Global warming is causing global cooling -- except when it's causing global warming!
We're all dooooomed!
Radical climate change theology is just secular wacko's equivalent of the fundamentalists' own wacky End Times Theology. There's a massive disaster coming, but our Messiah [insert politician here] will save us, if we only accept His Wisdom in our lives!
Read the scientific literature and not the Exxon lobbyist BS Anon expert climatologist.
His langauge was not careful but he got it right on what we have to do.
Nuclear proliferation will suddenly make sense as soon as one these "I can use 5000 off-the-shelf centurfuge" countries actually uses one of these things. Environmental impact of the nuclear weapons going off was obvious when were melting sand in the South Pacific. One in a major city with lots to burn would create fallout that would be enourmous.
Overpopulation is number two. We know it is comming and though we may be thinking fruit flies the same math will apply to us all unless we think. It is hard to image that human beings cannot effect climate especially if our numbers double or triple.
DMP
Good ol' Ted, alway dependable for a weird-ass quote. I remember back in 1979 when they asked him about increasing the number of jobs for black people, Turner suggested adding harnesses to the mobile ICBM trailers and using black men to pull them between bunkers.
If his old man hadn't committed suicide and left him with money and something to do, today Turner probably would be running a Dodge dealership.
Too much hanging out with Hanoi Jane Fonda and Al Global Gore.
Ted Turner is a psychophathic, elitist eugenicist. He sees humanity as a scourge on the Earth like so many of the elite do. To Ted Turner the rest of us are just "useless eaters".
This is the same old kook that started CNN. One of the biggest propaganda networks pushing the whole fake environmentalism "global warming" hoax. If you think this fear mongering old eugenicist quack who wants to kill off 80% of humanity is right Keith, why don't you begin with yourself. Go jump off the Eiffel Tower or something you "useless blogger".
Bwahahahahahaha!!!
Batman said...
Read the scientific literature and not the Exxon lobbyist BS Anon expert climatologist.
If we leave them ignorant, there will be lots and lots of food.
Ozone Layer has already killed us right?
Turner is not completely crazy, he's 100% correct about green energy sources.
Instead of pumping billions each month into a failed automotive, banking as well as war machine, money needs to be invested in infrastructure for green energy sources, jobs created with decent wages and benefits - that last.
Not doing so IS suicide, and we're already seeing the effects of this across the globe.
Unfortunately, we should have been investing in cleaner energy years ago, but the money still being made on oil is too lucrative to pass up - hence more tax-payer money will be pumped into a failed war policy.
Now, we're really screwed because the age-old system of robbing Peter to pay Paul (private industry paying the wages of public service employees) is no longer working.
Here in HB I'm hearing more and more griping from the residents - people across all wage brackets are getting fed-up with the wasteful spending that is still occuring.
Wage cuts across our entire economy is the only way to resolve the problems we are facing - this also includes are beloved sports heros who are still getting million dollar a year contracts - where's this money coming from? - your children, and their children's children for decades to come.
I predicted it in 1982 that there would be a 1st black president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_guUeWCE1g
LOL oh ok, the world is going to blow up by tomorrow for sure...LOL
I would have eaten his ex-wife Jane 30 or 40 years ago. Not so sure about now, though. Wrinkly dried-up Born-Again or starve to death? I dunno...
Global warming, states that we will have strange weather (32 in LA and subzero in Tidewater area) Where I grew up Northern California we get a lot less rain ( about 10 less a year then 1980s) I see different weather all the time then 20-30 years ago, not sure what to blame it on?
The entire world could look like Haiti and even then there would be people still claiming, "The World's population is not a problem. The world can easily support billions and billions more." And if that fails, the fall back position is:"You only support world population control because you don't want more people of color in the world."
The morons out-number us and they are cheerfully leading us to our doom.
"Read the scientific literature and not the Exxon lobbyist BS Anon expert climatologist."
No sh!t, the first anon thinks cold days in LA disprove global warming?
What a tard!
Unusual temperature swings, yes into colder as well as hotter weather, are part of it.
If the world increases in temperature the Northern regions will become fertile growing grounds for crops like corn where they have laid fallow for eons.
We are looking at billions of acres becoming crop ready.
Natural rain forests will emerge where desert once laid bare.
And the earth will flourish.
I can't wait.
I'll agree that we should slow down on populating the world, just look at few of our friends to the south, 35 million in Mexico City, Extremely violent turf wars on the border.
I hope to god Obama takes this shit seriously. The Cantarell oil deposit in Mexico has been declining now for several years, that was their main piggy-bank to keep the natives from getting too restless.
I'm in central Texas and one of my best buddies is from Mexico city, he seems like a smart guy, no kids anyway, I'd sure hate to have to look at him as an enemy.
Really that shit going-on down there is going to transform this country whether you like it or not, it already has. Thats why I say Obama better not skate on this.
And if he goes liberal and lets them "in", be prepared for civil war my friends, I've seen the writing on the wall now for 20 years, if he turns pussy on this situation, we'll have to fight.
Ted Turner is so full of shit it's not even funny.
Ted is a person with publicly documented mental illness. I do not make fun of this but it is important that people know how terribly mentally ill he is. Go google it.
No one, not even the most extreme members of the global warming cult, would say the earth is going to warm 8 degrees in 30 or 40 years. Hell, the IPCC report -- shoddy research at best -- doesn't even say there's been a material warming of the earth!
Turner, Gore, etc. are all cut from the same cloth: the cloth of tyranny. There is an old saying: "Crisis is the rallying cry of tyrants". That is to say: manufacture a crisis so you can seize control and implement/force your laws on the people.
That's exactly who Ted and Al are.
The rich will one day use their nuclear weapons to control the population.
If only Teddy could paint, we'd have another Francisco Goya on our hands.
keyser soze
i am telling you for your own good you are beginning to put the most insane people with the most radical views on your blog as credible spokespersons for a discredited theory that you really don't believe and if you do shut your pages down and go save the planet
I thought Ted Turner was a businessmane and a media company expert, not a global warming expert...?
I've been saying it all along.there's too many people in this planet.stupid people that can't stop f@cking will parish soon like china,India and any other over populated developing country or city.
everyone talks about nukes and economic depressions as the catalyst to Armageddon but it will be a disease that will change everything.
people chose to ignore conservation and moderation and because of that I believe that in less than 20 years the world's population will be less than half of what it is today,maybe even less...
What did the vegetarian dinosaurs eat, when the average worldwide temperature was estimated to be 10 degrees Celsius higher than it is now?
Those must have been some pretty special plants...
Anonymous, thanks for your insight. But there is a huge difference between fundamentalist theology and global warming alarmism: one is based on science, and the other -- religion -- is pure unadulterated fantasy. One is based on evidence and the other on blind "faith." So perhaps Ted is overstating the danger, but to compare global warming study to flat-earth fundamentalist nonsense is silly.
But, thankfully, you don't get to make important decisions.
Actually, this is turning out to be one of the snowiest and coldest winters on record in Michigan. As anon 2:29 pointed out, we are on a cooling trend. Record cold temperatures and snow have, in fact, brought about discussions about a possible new ice age.
Sorry, but the crazy rants from Ted Turner are not going to happen within our lifetimes. Feel free to build that bunker if you believe him.
Run to the hills Ma Parker......
The guy is full of shit.More doom and gloom to scare the avg joe.
Ted is part of the NWO and several related bodies. They advocate 80% deduction in world population within 20 years through conventional means and shock means. The Global Warming thing is just a partial cover story for this.
His last line was the BEST...
"NO MORE DUMMIES"
In other words, the George Bush's and Sarah Palin's of the world need to stay far away from politics...Stupid has almost killed us over the last 8 years.
Best of luck to the Obama team---God, do we need it!!
Top 10 Reasons why there will be no food shortage in 2009
10. Now is a great time to eat
9. Year round McDonalds
8. Free chalupas from pro atheletes
7. HousingPanic was shut down so there must not be any more crises
6. Fat guys in fannie packs are still cool
5. We are entering a "regular, normal market"
4. Modern technology has eliminted any prospects for famine
4. Lawrence Yun says everything will be alright.
3. Connie Degroot and all her friends can provide enough coke to curb everyone's appetites.
2. Polls taken on the Bloodhound Blog reveal optimism among delusional idiots
1. I'M A TOOL
I Call B.S. he probably already is a cannibal - thats where he acquired jkd (human form of mad cow dz.)
Siberia's thawing tundras are exposing mammoths which have been frozen there for 20,000 + years.
This is definitely not an indication of global cooling.
Let me do the math. Ted Turner is to global warming as Nicholas Retsinas is to the housing bubble.
100% wrong. "That's hard to do"
Does he still own CNN?
Please, ignorant people or those who hate science, please at least go read the global warming / climate change science. THEN come argue your point.
http://www.ipcc.ch/index.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJAbATJCugs&feature=related
What global arming.You morons need to read once in awhile and quit listening to al gores bullshit.All they want is more money from you.
They can try to enhance their argument by altering the talking point terminology from "global warming" to "climate change", but one thing remains true. In order for a scientific proposal to rise above hypothesis its predictions must be consistent and reliable. That is to say, the "globe" has to "warm" on some predictable, reliable basis. It has not for two years now, and it is looking like it will not this year, either.
You can try to prove your point by saying, "Gee, look at how uncharacteristically cold it is - proof of Anthropogenic Global Warming!", but keep your eyes on the predictions made by the IPCC. They will all be wrong. They are already, wrong. It is proof of nothing.
Clumperton, please tell the stupids like me how global warming causes global cooling. I'd really like to understand your thought process here.
Wait, don't bother. I'll tell it to the blog for you. You see bloggers, there was a theory of global warming some years ago. Left-wing scientists from around the world, in order to promote their own research grants and a global government, got together and said that there is a trans-world problem of the earth warming. This problem needs to be studied with obscene amounts of money and a global government will be needed to control all the world's economic activity so as to reduce carbon - the cause of global warming.
Unfortunately for these tyrannical personalities (left wingers), there wasn't much evidence for global warming. They then went on to doctor the research with the famous hockey stick graph. Of course, just a little investigation proved this to be a fraud. No one could reproduce the hockey stick results. Over time it became quite evident to everyone that parts of the world were experiencing extreme cold and extreme snow. Hmmm, how to explain?
The scientists got together again and decided that it wasn't really global warming but global climate change that was happening. That is, increased amounts of carbon cause hotter AND colder temperatures. Hence, the change of the mantra in the recent past to climate change. This then, would allow the socialist, one world government scientists to account for any variation in weather and use them as PROOF of the evils of man's economic activity.
So, bloggers, if you were stumped as to how global warming can cause extreme cold and snow (like in china and many other parts of the world last year), now you know!
Clumperton is a leftist who is behind the times; he has not kept up with the sneaky change of his science leaders. They moved to global climate change a few years ago while he/she is still stuck on global warming, wrongly using this as the reason for unseasonably cold and snowy weather in parts of the world. That's why he's Clumperton and not a global warming scientist at the University Wisconsin/Madison raking in hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars in consulting and research fees every year!
There you have it, bloggers. The truth about global warming...opps, i mean global climate change.
I predict a warming trend in the US to begin in early Feb followed by a cooling trend that gets going in earnest during mid August. I also see a cooling trend for Australia during mid Feb. I have excellent long range weather forecasts based on current weather observations and trends that support this. So even though its colder in Michigan now than it was this time last year, I GUARANTEE it will get warmer, then cooler.
Have lots of children, they will enjoy the weather more than you do.
Keith, the research is not well done nor is it completely accurate. 30 years ago, global cooling was a concern. Now its global warming?? The odds of global warming affecting anyone who is on this planet today is smaller than GW Bush's intellect. At best, we are probably a few thousand years away from it being a real concern. In all likelihood, the world's temps will fluctuate (a lot). The earth has certainly been hotter than it is now in its history. IN addition, the past 10 years do in fact indicate a cooling trend. Why not just acknowledge some of what I said as being accurate instead of being so blatantly one sided?
GLOBAL WARMING?!?!
Ohhhhh, nooooo, that's silly...there is no such thing.
Wooooooo-- Now there goes some Global warming in Trig's diaper right now!
Bristol!!!! Go breast-feed your little brother, will ya?!!!!
Hey granola bar enthusiasts from bankrupted-liberal California, I have an excellent idea:
Why not giving American citizenship to 20 million illegals as Barney Frank wants, so they can breed exponentially into 100 million gang-bangers, thieves, drug dealers, rapist, fraudsters, non taxpayers, welfare parasites, criminals, thrashers of the environment, and thugs, just like they destroyed their countries of origin.
Hey, leave to the ultraliberals to "fix" things. We can see they've done a great job in California and New York. I hope all these code-monkeys from California get their pink slips fast to face reality. That Pardo guy, the killer Santa in L.A., was a code monkey who lost his job back in July. We're just in the beginning.
well,as troops from Pakistan move closer to the Indian border the over population problem can be solved more less.
crossing my fingers those two off each other.
google "the great global warming swindle ".........it explains a lot of things regarding the quack jobs pushing their agenda.
Well, I do acknowledge overpopulation as the dominent factor in most of our problems.
Unfortunatly, stabilizing our population today would mean killing 300 000 people a day. A one child policy wouldn't do the trick, as population aging alone offsets the theoretical halving by generation.
But make no mistake, if we don't do that, and we most certainly won't, nature will.
NYT -- Old Man Winter, it turns out, is no friend of renewable energy.
This time of year, wind turbine blades ice up, biodiesel congeals in tanks and solar panels produce less power because there is not as much sun. And perhaps most irritating to the people who own them, the panels become covered with snow, rendering them useless even in bright winter sunshine.
So in regions where homeowners have long rolled their eyes at shoveling driveways, add another cold-weather chore: cleaning off the solar panels.
In January 2007, a bus stalled in the middle of the night on Interstate 70 in the Colorado mountains. The culprit was a 20 percent biodiesel blend that congealed in the freezing weather, according to John Jones, the transit director for the bus line, Summit Stage. (Biodiesel is a diesel substitute, typically made from vegetable oil, that is used to displace some fossil fuels.)
http://tinyurl.com/8bdux2
Buh buh the messiah said that he'll invest heavily on these frozen failures. How that can be? Different administration of thieves, same sheeple to be fleeced. Al Gore loves you, sheeple.
So let me get his straight: If it's snowing and colder like crazy, it's because of Global Warming? Ha! you people are hilarious. So you always win with your pathetic theory, right? If gets hot or cold, it's because of global warming. Ok, got it, geniuses.
It was 50 F in Southern Brazil last week (Summer). People were wearing sweaters and jackets. Pfff...some global warming.
Oh I forgot, this is the new America. Hot is cold, cold is hot, black is white, white is black...
Let it go folks, I present you the typical Californian who still think they're rich:
LA TIMES -- Michelle Gerdes of Long Beach just lost her job as a designer for a dinnerware manufacturer. Her husband, Steve, works for an air-conditioning company whose business is slowing. But that didn't stop the couple from buying $32,000 worth of photovoltaic panels that went up on their roof this month. The state rebate and a federal tax credit will reduce their out-of-pocket costs to about $17,000 -- a substantial saving but still a big chunk of change. "We decided to just go for it," said Michelle Gerdes, 44. "It's the right thing to do for the environment . . . and it will definitely increase the value of our house."
because keith believes in fairy tales like ron paul is super and obama is the savior and george bush is the devil imagine spending most of your waking hours thinking about one person to hate and then trying to convince a stranger to hate them also but we read him anyway if not for the entertainment for the sometimes information but use caution and the sitcom i call obama in the house is about to start
Look, it doesn't matter if the planet heats up and crops fry, or if the Atlantic Ocean's Gulf Stream suddenly throws the switch and Europe and the USA eastern seaboard suddenly are frozen. The results are similar if not the same. Population displacement and die off. I hate to think of the future for my children and grandchildren, but quite frankly, die off of human population will happen one way or another (probably disease), and all to the betterment of the rest of life on this beautiful planet. Despite the beauty humans are capable of they really have no more value than the other species to any but themselves. The self absorption and ego of humans to the exclusion of all other life is similar to the savage capitalist ecconomic system especially in the absolute surety of it's collapse.
Mama said: "The self absorption and ego of humans to the exclusion of all other life is similar to the savage capitalist ecconomic system especially in the absolute surety of it's collapse."
Are you talking about the same savage capitalistic system that allowed the Internet to flourish and gave you the opportunity to voice your opinion on this site?
What is this absolute MORON smoking!!! I would throw my steel nosed shoes at his Fonda kisser but I am afraid that may damage the steel.
My new years prediction is that after 1/20'09 we see a lot more of these smokers asking us to pay a carbon tax on farting.
Dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb,dumb...
To the many here that clearly know global warming is a conncocted leftwing farce.
Remember, not long ago it was crazy to even consider the earth not flat, and punishable by life in some regions for believing otherwise.
I really dislike know it alls with closed minds. why don't you all go teach anti evolutionary courses...
I think it betta to use term "Climate Stir Fry". Sometimes hot, sometimes cold- like sweet sour chicken!
Well Keith, I think your intelligent bloggers have spoken..while you are a treat to read on the subjects of housing, finance, bubbles, and even politics, your readership differs from you strongly on the notion of global warming. We all see it as a typical fluctuation in the earth's temperatures as it always has been. It is not some man made bullcrap that Al Gore wishes to make money off of. Do yourself a favor and research the other side of this issue and help bring the global warming nonsense to light.
"Keith, the research is not well done nor is it completely accurate."
Keith does not care about nor understand science and research. His thoughts are based on faith. Why else would he post a nutty quote from a certified non-scientist as if it were gospal?
To the many here that clearly know global warming is a conncocted leftwing farce.
Remember, not long ago it was crazy to even consider the earth not flat, and punishable by life in some regions for believing otherwise.
I really dislike know it alls with closed minds. why don't you all go teach anti evolutionary courses...
And I really dislike the know-it-alls on the left, like you, who are just as closed-minded and those you oppose. Are you saying that the only people with "closed minds" are those who question the global warming crowd and that we must unconditionally accept the opinions of Al Gore, Ted Turner and other non scientists?
Do not miss....the back pages of "State of Fear" (after the fiction).
Gonna' really miss Crichton. He was a pretty brave writer, to my way of thinking.
If you need a good look at Turner, on one of his strange sides, read "Fastnet Force 10". That was definitely a case of one man "throwing caution to the winds" (pun intended), but in the midst of death and destruction it doesn't set quite right.
olmek
Here's a US map with temperatures for 2008, provided by NOAA:
http://tinyurl.com/5bgs9e
Tell me if you see any evidence of global warming. I rest my case. This is the kind of data Al Gore doesn't want you to see.
I like the way Ted has bought lands on the plains, and is restoring native bison herds on them.
Americans should quit eating beef, and start eating bison.
What I really love is all the big city cowboy wannabes,
They talk a big line, "I'm gonna protect myself with lead"!
Listen A**holes,
There's a difference between talkin a big line and doing it!
You better be prepared to aim and shoot with no hesitation!
Just because you own a weapon doesn't mean you know how to use it!
Others, "I've got several thousand rounds in waiting"
Well, well, you may only have a one shot opportunity!
Make that one count!
one guy from an earlier blog said, I've got several types of each gun (i.e. pistol, rifle, shotgun)
well you better be ready to grab 1
Your not going to be running with 12 guns and equivalent ammo for each
These Global warming Bafoons were smart to change it from Global warming to climate change.
'If' they would have started off by calling it Global Cooling...I would have believed them!
F**K it's Damn Cold From Coast to Coast! Record snow and cold levels!
Snow in Malibu, Las Vegas,Phoenix, New Orleans, Houston (no matter how much or little) Coldest winter in China in 57 years.
A Freeze in L.A.
More than 1 'Global warming' rally had to be postponed....you got it, due to record cold or snow!
Open your eyes people!
Where the F**K is Al snakeoil Gore????????
Hey new thread idea!
I like "gwk's" sitcom titles for Obama:
-Obama In Da House
How about:
-That's My Obamama!
-Obama Times
-Barack and Son
-The Obama Show
-A Different Obama World
-The Obama's
-Diff'rent Obama Strokes
-What's Happenin' Obama?
-Obama Family Matters
-The Fresh Prince of Chicago.
Well, well, you may only have a one shot opportunity!
Not really, my AR-15 has more than one shot opportunity. Citing the words of Robert Downey Jr, "I'm a leather farmer, mof*ckers".
To the gutless anons,
If you want to take in some facts, I recommend the NASA website: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/
You'll have to turn off the Fox-Another-Pretty-Blong-Has-Gotten-In-Trouble "News" channel in order to absorb the above facts. Good luck to yah.
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NASA = source of funding for black projects = needs new bogeyman like global warming to fleece stupid taxpayers.
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Go over to peakoil.com and check out the threads on methane releases in the arctic. The arctic IS getting warmer, and there is a LOT of methane trapped up there. Methane is 100 times as powerful a greenhouse gas as carbon dioxide on a yearly basis. It's starting to release in levels that leave no doubt among non-deniers that we are in for some warming.
I disagree with Ted - there is no hope we will avoid this gently. The only thing I can think of that would derail the warming at all would be a nuclear winter.
Batman, please just give this a quick read.
The Exxon-lobby is a myth.
The trend is a cooling one and has been for almost a decade.
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