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seems Israel is seizing the advantage while W is still in the saddle to pound the Palis,,still the way over the top disportionate force (shades of Lidice perhaps) is causing PR problems...
The Israelis just have to keep bombing closer and closer to home, don't they? In 1967 and 1973, they could fly a long distance and bomb Sinai and Damascus and Jordan. In the 1980s, they could fly as far away as Iraq to bomb stuff! Then in the 1990s and this decade, they had to resort to bombing Lebanon -- a bit close to home. Now it's down to pounding the Concentration-Camp-By-The-Sea -- I mean the Gaza Strip. Never good when you have to bomb the hood.
Next up -- Dateline 2010: massive airstrikes in East Jerusalem, and Bethlehem. Dateline 2015: alternate side of the street bombing (like New York City parking regulations) in Tel Aviv as the Israeli vs. Israeli civil war takes hold.
I curse the Israelis murderers and stand with the Palastinian people and against the settlements which are illegal, the blockade which is immoral, the two tiered so called "democracy" and remind you all of the right to return which was agreed upon so long ago. The Palastinians are being killed slowly and surely by people who have been victims of hate and are now hostage to their own hatred. No more, stop it now, where is Obama? Well, he is watching...maybe pumping iron, maybe eating fruit ice while Palastinian children don't even have water and food and medicine.
For Zion's sake I will not keep silent, for Jerusalem's sake I will not remain quiet, til her righteousness shines out like the dawn, her salvation like a blazing torch.
Hey, great to see those "changey" dems like Nanci Pelosi stepping up and showing just how different they are from the current administration. I'm sure with all that political capitol, they won't hesitate to institute a draft so we can occupy the whole FUCKING MIDDLE EAST.
USA out of every where NOW. Bring them ALL home. Not another drop of blood to serve the bank hedgemony.
they should continue bombing and continue bombing and not stop until hamas is finished once a for all period and the sitcom i call obama in the house is about to start
I strongly urge all Arabs to blow themselves up in the name of Allah and achieve instant martyrdom. But please do it at your family table! Not in other people’s shopping centers or children schools, it’s just too much of a mess to clean up.
There has never been a better time to buy real estate in Gaza City! Many new open building lots are being created as part of a slum clearance project being undertaken by a neighboring government! Some even have vacant title because the owners and their entire families have been blown into red mist as part of the project!
Demand will be high for your spec apartment block because of all the families left homeless by the very same government clearance scheme! There will be abundant piles of charred wood, cinderblock rubble and other recyclable building material for a developer interested in the "Sack of Babylon" architectural style so popular in the Middle East!*
Act now while interest rates are at historic lows and before Gaza City is invaded by tanks! Talk to us about our explosive ARMament loans, or apply for a 30-year fixed rate mortgage underwritten by the Israeli Development Bank!**
*Cleansing of blood and gobbets of human flesh from said recyclable buildng material is the responsibility of the buyer.
**IDB loans contingent on sale to Jewish settlers in the event of forced exile or genocide of indigenous Muslim population. Loans subject to immediate payment demand in case of United Nations sanctions, invasion by Iranian army or acts of an angry Jehovah/Jesus/Allah.
If you want to know what happens here . Read ezekiel 38-39 It truly has been foretold .The same book that foretold that this nation would be reborn in a single day. Has declared that the nation of Israel would become a stumbling block to the world.The god of the bible has for whatever reason declared that this land belongs to him and is not to be divided.The world insists that Israel give up land for peace .The Muslims refuse to acknowledge Israels right to even exist. Talk about GOT POPCORN. The best book on this subject that I've read is epicentre by Joel rosenberg a Jewish believer in Jesus.Whether you believe the bible to be the word of God or not you cannot deny that it is a little more than coincidence that the The country it makes most reference to in prophetic terms is the most prevalent in the news almost everyday and has the most possibility of the being the likely reason the world may see nuclear war as she seeks only to defend her right to exist. This country could fit into the state of Florida 8 times .and has no known oil.
Wow Keith you have guts to post that. I've always thought Israel would have been flattened decades ago if it weren't for US tanks/guns $billions every year (also $billions to Arab states, bribing them to back off). But saying that is so un-PC it's unreal. But it's true.
Israel must get a huge kickback from the petroleum-military industrial complex to initiate these attacks - they're always timed to bolster the price of oil.
Israel should have done this a long time ago. These muslim fanatics were given that piece of land a few years ago in Israel's attempt to make peace and all they did was arm themselves to the teeth with more and more advanced rockets and missiles. I read that 3,000 rockets have been launched this year alone against Israel. I can't believe they waited so long to retaliate. I don't see how people on this blog can't see this. They must have an incredible hatred of Israel or Jews for them to disregard Israel's pulling out of Gaza and only getting rocket attacks in return.
The UN needs to make a ruling that the Gazan Pals should be relocated to the Sinai and live under Egyptian rule. That would be the best thing for them and for the world. This has gone on too long and the world needs to come together on this and create a resettlement policy for the Pals.
In the same vein as your "Buy Baja" platform, I think we should repeat the question Ehud Barak put to David Gregory on MTP this morning... (non-exact quote)
I wonder what the US would do if there was even 1 rocket per day coming out of Tijuana into San Diego (instead of the 80 rockets per day coming out of Gaza)?
The Palestinians are a wonderful people and some of the most talented academics in the world, for just one example, who have been hijacked by their corrupt government and now even moreso by the maniac fundamentalists. For a start, they should kick out Hamas and things will begin to improve.
America needs to support Israel more. Israel is our strongest ally and we need to help them against terrorists who want to harm innocent women, children and threaten Democracy.
I used to be a huge Isreal fan...Lil country versus all these blood thirsty savages etc etc.
However everytime they strike they strike very harshly almost like they want to keep war forever...Making sure there's always relatives wanting revenge for the accidental bombing.
Isreal was once a great country now they're garbage and I feel no pity for them...The people are decent people but any group of people that lets their government do what they do deserves what happens.
Just like us Americans giving "carte Blanche" to bush jr. and now suffering for the abuses to the system...All chickens come to roost.
Israel needs roasted Palis for their non-kosher BBQ next month. It is all part of a global illuminati bankster orgy of control through greed, death, and destruction. Bushco eats the livers of small children at secret devil worship meetings IMO.
Israel has treated the Palestinians, Arabs, all non-Jews as badly as they were treated in the 40's in Europe. And they wonder why they have no peace. Would have thought they would be smarter and more compassionate by now.
What's with these people making up stories, making money with fraud, getting book deals. Yet another holocaust story admitted false by it's own claimant.
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And never any have shame. Ever. Justify it as 'trying to spread tolerance' as they cash the checks. Reality call: you don't spread peace and tolerance by lying and defrauding, then lamely claiming good intentions. How about going to Gaza and volunteering to help the mangled Palestinian kids there instead? Maybe taking some of those bogus book profits and helping them out?
wow keith never new your site appealed to a bunch of antisemetic ignorant idiots.You people have no idea about true the historical facts about the so called palestinian people other than what the fane stream media you all claim to detest feeds you .How long would you put up with people blowing up busses and fireing bombs into your back yard .
Israel is a tiny dot on the world map. It takes about 1 min to fly across Israel. It is about 7 million Jews surrounded by a 20x Arabs. Israel excels in high tech, agriculture and science. Now, all you hear is that all the problems in the world are because Israel has too much land. And these high tech people just get crazy every few months and stat a new war. Don’t you find this story a bit strange?
I’m not going to get all flustered by it. They’ve cried wolf too many times. . I’ve lost track of how many times the Israelis and Palestinians have disturbed the peace of the world with their blood feud. One side or the other attacks, and then the world media wets themselves wondering if this is going to be the end of the world as we know it. . Until both sides can learn to resolve their differences without murdering each other, I’m just going to stay out of it.
Why isn't the muslim world taking up arms against Israel? Don't say it's because of the support of the USA. We can't even handle Iraq, right? The arab world must find it handy to use the palestinians as a political tool...
seems Israel is seizing the advantage while W is still in the saddle to pound the Palis,,still the way over the top disportionate force (shades of Lidice perhaps) is causing PR problems...
I hope someone hits your house with missiles and kills your wife and children. Then you can talk about qualifying respose levels, you dumb f*ck.
Israel understands it will not get much support from the outside, nothing new here. But they also understand that all the millions of Arabs with their vast stretches of land and super oil rich tyrants are no match to Israel’s creative and innovative spirit.
We also must understand that both sides of the Palestinian conflict is more of a Jewish thing then, -Arabs on the Pali side and Jews on the Israeli side-.
There are more pro-Palestinian Israelis, then pro- Palestinian Arabs. Jews provide more charity to the Palis then the Arabs do, by far.
Right or wrong, it is the reason Israel will prevail this time and every time.
So long that there is no ‘pro-Zionist’ movement in all of Arabia and Islam the Arabs will lose; a closed minded and ‘fearful of opposition ideas’ society will never be successful and never reach any truth.
The 1000 or so super duper oil rich families can oppress their populations and blame tiny Israel for only soo long before the martyr monsters they’ve created turn on them.
It’s nice to see the good people “Israel” finally fighting back. Let’s hope they bring these murdering desert rats to their knees and make em choke on the buttons of their explosive vests, before they have an opportunity to kill innocent lives.
I am an Egyptian Arab and can tell you all that the Arafat/Palestinian cause, has done more damage to Arabs and Islam then anything else in recent history.
Israel is not a threat to anyone, they are a small group of Jews who barley escaped the horrors of Europe without a pot to piss in.
Israel has given the Pals so much and they have got nothing in return. Before Israel took over the West Bank there were no colleges there. Israel built every single one. And what did it get for it? Academic Arab professors who instigated war with Israel. Arabs living in Israel (20% of the population) have more rights than Arabs anywhere else in the Middle East. We always here about settlers being the problem but they are only a tiny portion of the West Bank population. Certainly if 20% of Israel's population can be Arab then 5% of the West Bank's can be Jewish.
The Pals indoctrinate hatred of Israelis with their Muslim mother's milk. Just read the transcripts of their radio and TV shows, particularly their children's programming. They are a vile people who do not want peace. They are setting themselves up for total destruction since the path they have chosen is one of constant war. No people or nation can expect to survive if all they want is war. If they live by the sword, they will die by it.
Israel has been nothing but patient with the Pals. It left Gaza three years ago and all they did was turn it into a rocket launching piece of dirt. Now that the Gazans can fire rockets into major cities, it's a whole new ballgame. And one they won't win in the long-run.
It's time for Israel to crush Hamas and the Gazans for good.
I'm from Asia, and I say Israel has done a TERRIBLE PR for the last 20 years every time they go on a bombing spree.
Don't forget. A majority of Asia, South America, Africa, even Middle East (read: a majority of the world) was colonized at one time or another. To many of them, colonial rule is still a living memory, w/ their independence coming around WW2.
When they (I certain do) see Israeli helicopters shooting into residential buildings and missiles exploding in the residential area, they see the extremely lopsided power struggle and the sufferings they imagine their ancestors must have gone through no so long ago. After all, it's a modern version of the struggle between the colonizer and the colonized. These images fuel their collective rage against such gross injustice and human suffering that they remember their recent history and identify more firmly w/ their country that emerged from colonization in recent history.
I feel enormous sympathy for the Palestinians. I don't think I have a single friend in my native country who's sympathetic to Israel. And we're a young generation in our early 30's.
Desperate people take desperate measures. Israeli "occupation" is not an occupation but a colonization. West Bank and Gaza are almost completely dependent on Israel economically. Oh by the way, this "occupation" has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN. What does it mean to you individually? Only the US and Israel have been ignoring the rest of the world.
With the coming of the waning US influence in the world (brought down by this economic meltdown and currency posed to get devalued), if a new power shift/balance is in store in the global scene, I can safely say Israel cannot do something like this and get away with it by running under the wings of the US. in not so distant future.
. The Palastinians are being killed slowly and surely by people who have been victims of hate and are now hostage to their own hatred. No more, stop it now, where is Obama? Well, he is watching...maybe pumping iron, maybe eating fruit ice while Palastinian children don't even have water and food and medicine.
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why do we have to solve this problem? why don't the arab nations get involved and work towards finding a way to get the palastinians their own country?
To those of you who believe in the poor Israeli victims, I can only say that your ignorance is only superceded by your blindness. Most of the world no longer allows the accusation of anti-semitism for accusers of to shield the Israelis from their reputation as murderous, cruel nazis perpetrating thier own Shoah. They use bunker busters supplied by the US to retailiate against a captive, starved people who for two years have been killed just as cruelly by the medical blockade. No chemotherapy, no dialysis, no insulin, no blood supply. Meanwhile the settlers, the illegal settlers attack and steal and murder without any intervention by the Israeli government. The Settlements are illegal, the right to return was guaranteed. There can only be a one state solution. There is great need for a peace but the use of excessive and unreasonable violence towards civilians who had no escape is not going to do anything but perpetuate the violence. Many good Jews are coming forward and condemning the violence and many angry non Jews are throwing shoes at the murderous Israeli dogs. Religions, especially the three Abrahamic religions are the instigators of the conflicts in the Middle East, the slandering of Arabs and Muslims is ok but somehow the pitiful Jews are allowed to get away with murder like a spoiled child who once had a relative murdered. Most of the Shoah victims are now dead. That is right, never again, especially not in Palastine where the resistance is similar in its impact on the strong to the resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto. Wouldn't you too fight if you were being strangled to death?
Tell me that the media coverage of this in the U.S. is not one-sidedly pro-Israel...just try. Israel has been in violation of UN Res.242 for over four decades, their abuse of Palestinians (in terms of border construction, transportation, water rights, further invasive occupancy of Palestinian territory, etc.) is brutal, and the U.S.'s propping up of Israel should end.
couldn't agree more with this post. www.dailykos/storyonly/2008/12/28/114432/83/489 When it is us versus them, dehumanization occurs.. The whole concept of Israel was kind of nuts, not sustainable, and gets worse as the years and the abuse towards other continues..
They have been fighting over there for thousands of years and obviously have not yet shed enough blood to satisfy themselves (either side). They will keep fighting with whatever means they can get their hands on until someone's messiah comes (or comes back), or until one finds a way to completely destroy the other.
If I were Israel and had the resources they currently do, I would unleash complete and total holy hell on Gaza and southern Lebanon (not up to Beruit). The people around Israel hate them, always will, so who the f*** cares. They will kill less with one monster swipe than dragging this out another few generations or until one of the Muslim nations has the ability to do the same to Israel.
It is just a matter of time before one of the two sides decides to step it up a notch and go nuclear.
The arabs need to stop shelling Israel and leave the Israelis alone. Hamas is bringing this upon themselves, as usual.
I suggest that the arabs there spend a bit more time trying to do something productive (i.e. grow some crops or something) rather than making bombs and blowing themselves and others up.
Also I'm surprised at how anti-semetic this site is. If you are going to build a hate site, why not do that elsewhere and leave this one to finance and economics?
MADOFF DESTROYED ISRAEL BY BANKRUPTING MOST JEWISH CHARITIES(AKA 'POLITICA ACTION COMMITTEES AND LOBBYING GROUPS'). THOSE 'CHARITIES' WERE NOT CLOTHING AND FEEDING HUNGRY AND HOMELESS CHILDREN AT ALL, AND DESERVED THEIR JUST PUNISHMENT!
IRAN DID NOT HAVE TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP...MADOFF DID IT FOR THEM!
YAHWEH WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!
ISRAEL'S ACTIONS IN THE GAZA IS THE MARK OF A BANKRUPT,ANGRY,DESPERATE COWARD!!
YES ISRAEL..YOU ARE A COWARD IN THE EYES OF THE WISE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD AND YOU COMMAND NO RESPECT AND NOT EVEN FEAR..
THE ONLY ATTENTION YOU GARNISH IS A FOUL STENCH IN THE NOSTRILS BECAUSE OF THE UNWASHED PERVERT THAT YOU ARE!!
who had Isreal when the cromagnums werte fighting the neanderthals............and as much as i would prefer not being smitten from heaven in the skys above by anyones gods.i say screw them all...........
Why is it that when anyone says Israel is brutish in their treatment to the Pal's they are instantly labeled an anti semite. So much for the 'tolerance' they want.
The Pals indoctrinate hatred of Israelis with their Muslim mother's milk. Just read the transcripts of their radio and TV shows, particularly their children's programming. They are a vile people who do not want peace. They are setting themselves up for total destruction since the path they have chosen is one of constant war. No people or nation can expect to survive if all they want is war. If they live by the sword, they will die by it."
If there are Jewish Nazis, you are one. Disgusting.
Spent close to 10 years working with Israelis in the defense sector. Personally witnessed how the American Jewish politco network works Congress.
Mind you Israel now gets $3B annually in US support. Folks this escalation is merely to assure Israel gets its share and more from Obama as he and the Dem Congress form their plans to dole out the precious few dollars left in the Gov't budget. Better first to fund Israel than help the indigent and unemployed in this country (and spend the money at home). What's a few Pali's lives in support of subtle lobbying for more funds.
“...The whole concept of Israel was kind of nuts, not sustainable, and gets worse as the years and the abuse towards other continues..”
Oh please. I mean, what is the problem with the Arabs? If someone showed up at my house in Passthegass New Jersey and pointed out that by the authority of their holy book they owned my ranch house and the land beneath it, I’d just pack up and leave.
Group punishment that is not proportional to the crime is criminally unjust. Any sympathy toward Israel has vanished, just as sympathy vanished toward the United States when Bush attacked Iraq.
You're very stupid if you don't realize that this fake Israeli/Hamas conflict is a cheap attempt to bring the price of oil up. Unbelievable, how can't you see that? Just look a the timing and the coverage by the corrupt media, alleging that the current increase in oil prices is due to the Israeli/Hamas conflict. Due to "Disturbance in the Middle East".
Wake up, sheeple. You screw this mafia back by cutting even more in fuel expenses or any expense for that matter. The more they try to pump oil prices up, the less you should drive or consume. We have the power as consumers. Don't consume anything and don't invest in the rigged stock market. Let the crooks die.
When Israel is done doing our job cleaning the scum of the earth in its backyard, I hope she nukes Saudi Arabia next.
You may ask why not nuke Iran next; the answer is cause the Saudis are systemically killing the global education system by inserting radical professors everywhere.
With that said:
Dear brave Israel; once again it appears you are out there alone defending the good for all of us…
Our local chapter of the ‘Knights of Columbus’ are praying for you Israel!
MAY THE WIND BE AT YOUR BACK. MAY YOUR ENEMIES FALL AND CRUMBLE AT YOUR FEET.
Hey Keith, it seems your blog is filled with Madoff-people. Don't you Mossad freaks have anything else better to do, like polishing your menorahs, counting money from your heists, or bombing kids to bring the price of oil up?
Remember sheeple, all these conflicts are fake, invented only to make money for the same shady groups. IT'S ALL RIGGED!
What hubris! Slaughter, of men, women and children without regard of human life or justice. Israel is powerful now, but god help them when things change in the near, or far future. History proves that things do change, Jews were enslaved by the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Romans, and the Greeks.
This site is full of anti-semites because a lot of Keith's followers are Leftists and they have become, over the past couple of decades, the new anti-semites. The Arabs, socialists, and communists who make up a good portion of the Left hate Jews and Israel.
Remember, the NAZIs were socialists. NAZI is an acronym, not a word. It stands for National Socialists. The Left decided to change it to a word some time ago to read as "Nazi" so no one would ask the question, "What does NAZI stands for?". What sleazy bastards. Too ashamed to admit their movement is genocidal and was the cause of 60 million deaths in Europe and Russia in WWII.
I'm amazed that people would actually vote for supporting Hamas in Keith's poll. That's an open invitation to federal authorities to investigate this site and those people since Hamas is a terrorist organization.
The Left continues to deny that Hamas started all of this...they can do no wrong. They just want to hide their heads in the desert sand. Hamas now has Iranian rockets that can reach Israel's major population centers. This changes everything. They clearly want a war with Israel and they got it. I hope Israel wipes them out for good.
the only good black angus is the one who stops taking murder and racism and learns how to read and think and love. However, we have to love him anyhow and try to find the humanity in him. It is very hard and very hard to find the humanity in the Israelis right now too. As John Lennon said, just give peace a chance.
So there are defenders of Israel who want the Jews to kill every person in Palestine, Saudi Arabia and Iran because it was so wrong that the Nazis tried to kill every Jew in Europe. You support genocide BY the Jews because it was wrong to commit genocide ON the Jews. See a bit of illogic there, folks?
Only a few commenters have pointed out that Israel has been strangling the Gaza Palestinians with its economic blockade. That's the main reason the Gazans are pissed off enough to fire those rockets, which are weak, inaccurate pieces of crap compared to a supersonic guided missile packed with high explosives. The Israelis are killing 100 Palestinians for every Israeli who gets killed. What should the proper ratio be, Israel defenders -- 1,000 to one? 10,000? Kill every bearded man, every scarfed-up woman, every snot-nosed kid in Gaza? Give me a number.
FWIW, I don't hate Israel. My sweat and blood (courtesy of the time I nicked my thumb with a machete whilst cutting back dead leaves in the banana plantation) is in the soil of Eretz Israel after I spent a summer as a guest worker on a socialist kibbutz near the Golan Heights. Although I'm not Jewish, my daughter is via my ex-wife's lineage. I don't hate Israel. I just hate what the country is doing. And it WILL be their downfall. Remember the Crusades? The outsiders did all right for a hundred years or so, but they kept pissing off the local folks, and it ended badly for the new kids on the block.
You're very stupid if you don't realize that this fake Israeli/Hamas conflict is a cheap attempt to bring the price of oil up. Unbelievable, how can't you see that? Just look a the timing and the coverage by the corrupt media, alleging that the current increase in oil prices is due to the Israeli/Hamas conflict. Due to "Disturbance in the Middle East".
Wake up, sheeple. You screw this mafia back by cutting even more in fuel expenses or any expense for that matter. The more they try to pump oil prices up, the less you should drive or consume. We have the power as consumers. Don't consume anything and don't invest in the rigged stock market. Let the crooks die.
Not to mention this is the perfect time to get everyone's attention away from a weakening dollar as Ben flies his helicopter with the door open and one foot out.
I can't believe the number of people here who say Keith and this blog is Anti-Semitic. Just because someone disagrees with Israel doesn't mean they are Anti-Semitic!
The thing that really pisses me off is that there are so many Jewish Americans who support Israel before they support America. That is just plain Anti-American. If you love Israel that much, then go live over there and don't ask us for one thin red cent!
Dear Israel, Don’t look for support on the outside, very much like our individual personal growth. Ignore the noise of those who are never there to help you and are always there to support chaos and anarchy, cause as you know misery loves company.
Even if you where to give away all your material assets to them for free they would still wake up each morning and write books, comment on blogs etc. and conspire against you, actually the nicer you are the more they hate you.
Your worthless enemies are barbaric animals; they will surrender like the cowards they are!
Have no fear, the ‘international community’ will do as much as they did to the Germans after committing genocide, they will do as much as they did to Sudan after committing Darfur genocide, as much as they did to Briton for what they did to the Irish, Welsh, and Scotts, as much as they did to the Americans for what they did to the Natives etc.etc. One big nothing! Even though they where horribly wrong.
Yet you are in the right!
Bring them to their knees; they will surrender with your boots in their mouth.
The whole episode saddens me. I see little difference between terror by smart bombs or terror by suicide bombs. All I can say is that 1 is a coward. F all of them. Let them do this without our help & without our bombs. Anyone who disagrees should check w/the founding fathers & maybe find a new country.
"Only a few commenters have pointed out that Israel has been strangling the Gaza Palestinians with its economic blockade. That's the main reason the Gazans are pissed off enough to fire those rockets, which are weak, inaccurate pieces of crap..."
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!
Bukko, you are delusional if you think Hamas shoots rockets into Israel because of a sea blockade. There's no blockade via the Egyptian border...in fact, that's how they get rockets into Gaza. And by the way, all the western powers cut off political and economic relations with them once they were elected to power by the Gazans.
Bukko's statement really sums up the naivete and cognitive dissonance of the Left: they simply refuse to admit the truth that Hamas and the Palestinians want to see Israel destroyed. That's the way it's been since 1948, and in particular 1964 when the PLO was formed under Jordanian and Egyptian occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.
Hamas fired rockets before the blockade, they fire rockets with it, and will fire rockets even if it goes away. The strategy is to build up the arsenal to the same level as Hezzbolah in Lebanon and then to engage in a protracted war of attrition -- based on rockets and missles -- where Israel either gives up and dissolves or the people leave and the country implodes. That's the strategy. And it will work unless Israel hits them hard and for a long time. That's what they're doing and hopefully it will work.
Until the Left faces the fact that the Palestinians simply do not accept Israel as a country, we will continue to have these inane and worthless discussions.
In the meantime, Israel has to do what it feels it must to stop the aggression against its people. And even in the face of massive dead, Hamas continues to shoot rockets. That speaks volumes to their fanatical hatred of Israel. Like the NAZIs (the German National Socialist Party), after which Hamas models itself, they will go into the ash heap of history. Someday, but not before ruination to their people.
Bukko, try living in your town with 10 rockets a day reigning down upon it that have been shot by your Aborigines (the ones you screwed over so badly). You and your wife will be singing a different tune very quickly.
The Palestinians have every right to be pissed. The Brits took 90% the Palestinians prime land and gave it to the Israelis while they partitioned the Palestinians into non-farmable plots of dead soil.
The same ungrateful Israelis suicide bombed the Brits out in 1948. I really wish the US would stop supporting Israel. I say we let them start what they can't control, when they beg for help offer them the glass parking lot solution, BOOM.
Antisemitism, ultimate knowledge, sheer writeoff of the comment are tactical tools used by the Jewish community for years to fend off any accusation of brutality, reverse descrimination by Jews. Note I don't say Israeli's. I have many Israeli friends who I met while I worked there for a company. The Jewish mantra is an American Jew phenomena which developed to cement America's tie to Israel. It carries over from Hollywood to Wall Street.
Many Israelis don't care for their American cousins (but like their money).
Unfortunately, the Aborigines are too disorganised to get together a good rocket barrage. Although if they could fashion missile bodies from old beer stubby tins, they'd have ample raw materiel! Since they have an unfortunate habit of sniffing petrol to get high, I hesitate to think what they'd do with rocket fuel, too.
thanks for your personal insights on your native population. typical liberal, elitist, arrogant, mean-spirited, nasty, and mindless drivel.
I know, you aren't always like this....when you are at cocktail parties with your liberal friends you wax eloquent about the plight of your natives. you know, much concern, furrowed brow, "such a shame", etc., etc. etc. But then you go on blogs and stomp them into the ground for the worthless, petrol sniffing subhumans that you would like them to be.
Note to Bukko: clean up your own backyard before you start trying to cleanup Israel's.
Besides, the entire world knows that all of you in Oz are descendants of criminals, rapists, and murderers. Why should we give their offspring any notice at all? And why don't you tell everyone here your lineage so we can see how many criminals are part of your family tree. (yes, I'm assuming you're a "native white" since only one of those types could make fun of the Aborigines).
the rockets Hamas is launching are home made "Qassam" type kind of like home made science projects..99% of them don't hit any human target, Hamas should NOT be shooting instead try to govern and shower regularly..
JaneZ said... Where is Honica Jewinski when you need her? ----------------- Visiting some other HATE website, probably.
It doesn't get much more hateful than what I am reading here today. Honica was eloquent compared to some of these posts. Somehow we even ended up with Aborigine bashing. What does that have to do with the Israelis bombing Gaza back to the stone age anyway?
Nothing like blowing body parts into orbit with God's approval to bring out the best in everybody.
Thank you for your unfailingly polite comment, Anonymous at 2:59 a.m. I will concede to being a descendant of genocidal murderers, because I'm American from way back. When my dad died last year, I was cleaning out his library (among other things, three boxes of Betamax porn! Can you imagine?) I came across a geneaology book from the Pitkin side of the family tree. Some of 'em went back to New England in 1629.
So my peeps were slaughtering Indians 150 years before Captain Cook gave the first fatal case of venereal disease to a Koori woman. But I immigrated to Oz in 2005 so I wouldn't have to keep paying taxes for realPresident Cheney's genocide in the oil patch. That's my get-out-of-hell-free card.
Note to Anonymous: when someone has those blue letters on their name with these comments, click on it. There's often a personal profile attached! Of course, it could all be lies, like ads in singles-seeking-love pages, but it's neat to see what kinds of bullshit people say about themselves.
As for people of Aboriginal descent, let me assure you that I literally wipe their arses. I'm a hospital nurse, so I wipe the arse of people from every ethnic and religious group. FWIW, they all stink the same. In truth, I don't wipe as many myall arses as I do other groups, because down here in the chilly southern state, we don't have many left. Queensland and the N.T., that's where you find 'em.
Yes, I make mild sport of Aborigines. I take the mick at other groups too. Hospital nurses snark behind the backs of all our patients, except the ones who die with quiet dignity. And those patients aren't even in a position to care!
But I save my most toxic venom for when I talk about my fellow Americans. That goes over well here, as it does all over the world. "America" is the planet's new Polack joke, only with a nasty, killing edge to it.
Israel has the right to self-defense, and should destroy Hamas, a terrorist organization who has been bombing Israel.
They should now invade Gaza, kill anyone associated with Hamas, destroy all of their facilities and assets, and be done with it.
And then the Palestinians will have a choice. Recognize Israel, renounce terrorism, celebrate their new statehood, receive massive foreign investment, and live in peace and prosperity.
Or they can keep supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, keep terrorizing, keep living in poverty and ignorance, and keep destroying themselves.
Their choice. And until then, I hope Israel has the courage to take care of business. Including dropping bombs on Iran's nuke facilities.
This isn't a jewish issue. This is a matter of a nation defending itself from terrorists and from countries who have called for its destruction.
It's time to resolve this matter once and for all.
This site is full of anti-semites because a lot of Keith's followers are Leftists and they have become, over the past couple of decades, the new anti-semites.
Not really, I despise ultraliberals, but I'm not stupid enough tho be taking sides with selfish crooks (aka Madoff People). Remember people, refer only to Israelis as "Madoffs" from now on.
The level of rhetoric coming out of Isreal leads me to believe it's a diversion from their bigger intentions...Iran. I get the feeling Isreal is drawing in an international community for support before they make their big play against Iran.
My apologies for calling you a native white of Oz. It didn't occur to me that an immigrant would make such callous and racist remarks about a native population in the country that ALLOWED him to immigrate to and become a citizen (presumably). That you are an immigrant -- and a recent on at that -- and are making fun of the native population is a hell of a lot WORSE than if you were born there.
America has always been hated by many countries around the world, particularly France and other autocratic regimes. Why? Because they hate the ideals of liberty, freedom, and free enterprise. These concepts are polar opposites to the archaic ideas of behavioral control, intimidation, and planned economy, which constitute the core philosophies of the vast majority of the countries of the world. The very fact of America's existence is an existential threat to most countries in the world. That's the fact. And that's why America is hated so much, in addition to our incredible ability to invent, create, and influence the world. I suspect that there were similar feelings by countries when other powers in the past (Britain, France, Spain, etc.) ruled and/or influenced the globe.
It is a badge of honor to be hated for these ideals because those countries are so far behind us in terms of political philosophy, culture, and technology. Having said this, I don't look down upon these countries but encourage them to try to adopt the ideals enshrined in our federal Constitution. Indeed, if you know anything about history you would know that many, many countries have simply lifted sections out of that document and used them as the basis for their own Constitutions or for their own laws. The most recent being Iraq.
For those of you who support the Muslims/Hamas/Hezbollah in their war against Israel, I say you should vote with your feet and go live in one of the Middle Easern countries...with your wife, girlfriend, or daughters. I suspect that if you do you would be making a beeline to the nearest western democracy (Israel) in very short order (of course, you would say something nasty about the place and then fly off to a more comfortable environment).
By the way, that you would shame your deceased father for broadcasting his sexual interests that were certainly private to him via the internet speaks a lot about you. But it does not surprise me since your type is typical of so many of those on the Left...i.e. infantile, irrationally rebellious, self absorbed, disrespectful, and possessing a complete lack of character.
Good luck in Oz. Feel free to continue spewing your "toxic venom" about your former country, the U.S., to your small circle of Leftist friends.
Good for Keith for, as usual, seeing the issue in the clearest possible terms.
The arabs need to focus on building up infrastructure and the ability for their people to be productive. This culture of death and destruction and sociopathic behavior is not going to get them anywhere.
Israel please get on with it already and do what is required.
By the way, that you would shame your deceased father for broadcasting his sexual interests that were certainly private to him via the internet speaks a lot about you.
Oh, mate, you slay me! But I appreciate the compliment you give me by taking time to read my words and comment on them in your nameless, faceless way.
First thing is, my dad's dead. He doesn't give a rosy rat's rear end any more. Second thing, do you know my dad's name? Do you know mine? I didn't think so. So how can it shame a person, even if he was still alive, if there's no identification?
And since I'm a godless liberal, I'm not worried about ol' Dad's spirit frowning down on me. His ashes are doing the mausoleum nap in a wall in Arlington National Cemetery, but that's all there is. Dad was career Army but he got left-wing after retirement, and he got a kick out of my voluntary political exile thing.
That's the beauty of teh Internets toobez. It's pure intellect (or lack of it) with no identity. A floating free-for-all of words without faces, where anything can be said without harm to a person, as long as one doesn't get too specific. Which is why I can be as blatant as I am about my alleged life. Who knows? It could all be a lie.
BTW, have you ever been to France? Mrs. Bukko demands a holiday to Paris every year, which isn't easy to do from down here. We speak passable Francais, and love the country. We even flew a French flag outside the front window of our house in San Francisco as a protest at the start of the Iraq slaughter. (As you've noted, we're card-carrying liberals, so it's a requirement that we be Francophiles.)
You think the Frenchies are autocratic? Mate, that's the country where the workers regularly go on nationwide strikes to knock back the government when it gets in the way of workers' rights. My French friends are proud of how their national culture sneers at the leadership. They're anotty, anti-authoritarian buggers, those French. That's part of why I like them, in addition to the good food and wine. America should be more like France!
The Palestinians live in an apartheid state and the world's largest outdoor prison. We get satellite TV at home and not ABC.CBS.NBC etc so we see the other side and no we're not Arabs. Even the BBC has more balance in reporting. AIPAC owns Congress and Walt and Mersheimer are right. When the majority of this country wakes up to that fact there will be hell to pay.
>> why do we have to solve this problem? why don't the arab nations get involved and work towards finding a way to get the palastinians their own country?
Because the Palestinians are the niggers of the MidEast. No one, not even their own Arab brothers, want them.
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seems Israel is seizing the advantage while W is still in the saddle to pound the Palis,,still the way over the top disportionate force (shades of Lidice perhaps) is causing PR problems...
what would Barry O say? well, nothing yet,
The Israelis just have to keep bombing closer and closer to home, don't they? In 1967 and 1973, they could fly a long distance and bomb Sinai and Damascus and Jordan. In the 1980s, they could fly as far away as Iraq to bomb stuff! Then in the 1990s and this decade, they had to resort to bombing Lebanon -- a bit close to home. Now it's down to pounding the Concentration-Camp-By-The-Sea -- I mean the Gaza Strip. Never good when you have to bomb the hood.
Next up -- Dateline 2010: massive airstrikes in East Jerusalem, and Bethlehem. Dateline 2015: alternate side of the street bombing (like New York City parking regulations) in Tel Aviv as the Israeli vs. Israeli civil war takes hold.
I curse the Israelis murderers and stand with the Palastinian people and against the settlements which are illegal, the blockade which is immoral, the two tiered so called "democracy" and remind you all of the right to return which was agreed upon so long ago. The Palastinians are being killed slowly and surely by people who have been victims of hate and are now hostage to their own hatred. No more, stop it now, where is Obama? Well, he is watching...maybe pumping iron, maybe eating fruit ice while Palastinian children don't even have water and food and medicine.
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For Zion's sake I will not keep silent, for Jerusalem's sake I will not remain quiet,
til her righteousness shines out like the dawn,
her salvation like a blazing torch.
Isaiah 62:1
isreal has no future. It will always be in a state of perpetual war. And there will be revenge attacks.
Do you mean tick...tick...tick like on 60 minutes?
Or do you mean tick...tick...tick like a clock that just counts how many years they've been fighting.
Hey, great to see those "changey" dems like Nanci Pelosi stepping up and showing just how different they are from the current administration. I'm sure with all that political capitol, they won't hesitate to institute a draft so we can occupy the whole FUCKING MIDDLE EAST.
USA out of every where NOW. Bring them ALL home. Not another drop of blood to serve the bank hedgemony.
they should continue bombing and continue bombing and not stop until hamas is finished once a for all period and the sitcom i call obama in the house is about to start
Go Israel!
Crush them murdering Arab A-holes.
Nothing ticking here.
All is well after we send them to the showers.
I strongly urge all Arabs to blow themselves up in the name of Allah and achieve instant martyrdom.
But please do it at your family table!
Not in other people’s shopping centers or children schools, it’s just too much of a mess to clean up.
There has never been a better time to buy real estate in Gaza City! Many new open building lots are being created as part of a slum clearance project being undertaken by a neighboring government! Some even have vacant title because the owners and their entire families have been blown into red mist as part of the project!
Demand will be high for your spec apartment block because of all the families left homeless by the very same government clearance scheme! There will be abundant piles of charred wood, cinderblock rubble and other recyclable building material for a developer interested in the "Sack of Babylon" architectural style so popular in the Middle East!*
Act now while interest rates are at historic lows and before Gaza City is invaded by tanks! Talk to us about our explosive ARMament loans, or apply for a 30-year fixed rate mortgage underwritten by the Israeli Development Bank!**
*Cleansing of blood and gobbets of human flesh from said recyclable buildng material is the responsibility of the buyer.
**IDB loans contingent on sale to Jewish settlers in the event of forced exile or genocide of indigenous Muslim population. Loans subject to immediate payment demand in case of United Nations sanctions, invasion by Iranian army or acts of an angry Jehovah/Jesus/Allah.
Giving Gaza to the Arabs was a huge mistake on Israel’s part.
If you want to know what happens here . Read ezekiel 38-39 It truly has been foretold .The same book that foretold that this nation would be reborn in a single day. Has declared that the nation of Israel would become a stumbling block to the world.The god of the bible has for whatever reason declared that this land belongs to him and is not to be divided.The world insists that Israel give up land for peace .The Muslims refuse to acknowledge Israels right to even exist. Talk about GOT POPCORN.
The best book on this subject that I've read is epicentre by Joel rosenberg a Jewish believer in Jesus.Whether you believe the bible to be the word of God or not you cannot deny that it is a little more than coincidence that the The country it makes most reference to in prophetic terms is the most prevalent in the news almost everyday and has the most possibility of the being the likely reason the world may see nuclear war as she seeks only to defend her right to exist. This country could fit into the state of Florida 8 times .and has no known oil.
Wow Keith you have guts to post that. I've always thought Israel would have been flattened decades ago if it weren't for US tanks/guns $billions every year (also $billions to Arab states, bribing them to back off). But saying that is so un-PC it's unreal. But it's true.
The Madoff National Flag of Honor..
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Notice the same language that was used by Bush for his murderous rampage: terrorists, defensive action, blah, blah, blah...
Israel is a terrorist state support by another terrorist state.
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Shame on Israel for the latest Gaza massacre. There will come one day when Israel will not be able to getaway with such injustices.
Let's see. Oil is down, even with cuts in production.
Hmmm, I wonder how much Hamas charged OPEC for creating this crisis to help increase oil prices?
Israel must get a huge kickback from the petroleum-military industrial complex to initiate these attacks - they're always timed to bolster the price of oil.
What a sorry bunch of bastards!
With so much bombing by the Israelis, who's taking care of the bazaar?
Oh, and one more thing, your food sucks!
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Don't call them Israelis, call them by their proper name: MADOFF PEOPLE.
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Israel should have done this a long time ago. These muslim fanatics were given that piece of land a few years ago in Israel's attempt to make peace and all they did was arm themselves to the teeth with more and more advanced rockets and missiles. I read that 3,000 rockets have been launched this year alone against Israel. I can't believe they waited so long to retaliate. I don't see how people on this blog can't see this. They must have an incredible hatred of Israel or Jews for them to disregard Israel's pulling out of Gaza and only getting rocket attacks in return.
The UN needs to make a ruling that the Gazan Pals should be relocated to the Sinai and live under Egyptian rule. That would be the best thing for them and for the world. This has gone on too long and the world needs to come together on this and create a resettlement policy for the Pals.
Keith,
In the same vein as your "Buy Baja" platform, I think we should repeat the question Ehud Barak put to David Gregory on MTP this morning... (non-exact quote)
I wonder what the US would do if there was even 1 rocket per day coming out of Tijuana into San Diego (instead of the 80 rockets per day coming out of Gaza)?
The Palestinians are a wonderful people and some of the most talented academics in the world, for just one example, who have been hijacked by their corrupt government and now even moreso by the maniac fundamentalists. For a start, they should kick out Hamas and things will begin to improve.
DANNY Z
America needs to support Israel more. Israel is our strongest ally and we need to help them against terrorists who want to harm innocent women, children and threaten Democracy.
Their Kazarians not descendants of abraham. as such they have no right to biblical israel
I used to be a huge Isreal fan...Lil country versus all these blood thirsty savages etc etc.
However everytime they strike they strike very harshly almost like they want to keep war forever...Making sure there's always relatives wanting revenge for the accidental bombing.
Isreal was once a great country now they're garbage and I feel no pity for them...The people are decent people but any group of people that lets their government do what they do deserves what happens.
Just like us Americans giving "carte Blanche" to bush jr. and now suffering for the abuses to the system...All chickens come to roost.
Israel needs roasted Palis for their non-kosher BBQ next month. It is all part of a global illuminati bankster orgy of control through greed, death, and destruction. Bushco eats the livers of small children at secret devil worship meetings IMO.
Israel has treated the Palestinians, Arabs, all non-Jews as badly as they were treated in the 40's in Europe. And they wonder why they have no peace. Would have thought they would be smarter and more compassionate by now.
Here's a way they win hearts and minds (NOT):
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/rights/115727/
What's with these people making up stories, making money with fraud, getting book deals. Yet another holocaust story admitted false by it's own claimant.
http://tinyurl.com/8r8lam
And never any have shame. Ever. Justify it as 'trying to spread tolerance' as they cash the checks. Reality call: you don't spread peace and tolerance by lying and defrauding, then lamely claiming good intentions. How about going to Gaza and volunteering to help the mangled Palestinian kids there instead? Maybe taking some of those bogus book profits and helping them out?
wow keith never new your site appealed to a bunch of antisemetic ignorant idiots.You people have no idea about true the historical facts about the so called palestinian people other than what the fane stream media you all claim to detest feeds you .How long would you put up with people blowing up busses and fireing bombs into your back yard .
I'm shocked and dismayed by the anti-Semitic tone of this blog.
No price is too great to prevent another Shoah at the hands of the Islamic Terrorists (the new Nazis).
Never again!
Israel is a tiny dot on the world map. It takes about 1 min to fly across Israel. It is about 7 million Jews surrounded by a 20x Arabs. Israel excels in high tech, agriculture and science. Now, all you hear is that all the problems in the world are because Israel has too much land. And these high tech people just get crazy every few months and stat a new war. Don’t you find this story a bit strange?
Check your fact before jumping to conclusion.
I’m not going to get all flustered by it. They’ve cried wolf too many times.
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I’ve lost track of how many times the Israelis and Palestinians have disturbed the peace of the world with their blood feud. One side or the other attacks, and then the world media wets themselves wondering if this is going to be the end of the world as we know it.
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Until both sides can learn to resolve their differences without murdering each other, I’m just going to stay out of it.
Why isn't the muslim world taking up arms against Israel?
Don't say it's because of the support of the USA. We can't even handle Iraq, right?
The arab world must find it handy to use the palestinians as a political tool...
Looks like when these morons get done here they go to there hero alex jones and spew there nazi hate there too.
seems Israel is seizing the advantage while W is still in the saddle to pound the Palis,,still the way over the top disportionate force (shades of Lidice perhaps) is causing PR problems...
I hope someone hits your house with missiles and kills your wife and children. Then you can talk about qualifying respose levels, you dumb f*ck.
Israel understands it will not get much support from the outside, nothing new here.
But they also understand that all the millions of Arabs with their vast stretches of land and super oil rich tyrants are no match to Israel’s creative and innovative spirit.
We also must understand that both sides of the Palestinian conflict is more of a Jewish thing then, -Arabs on the Pali side and Jews on the Israeli side-.
There are more pro-Palestinian Israelis, then pro- Palestinian Arabs.
Jews provide more charity to the Palis then the Arabs do, by far.
Right or wrong, it is the reason Israel will prevail this time and every time.
So long that there is no ‘pro-Zionist’ movement in all of Arabia and Islam the Arabs will lose; a closed minded and ‘fearful of opposition ideas’ society will never be successful and never reach any truth.
The 1000 or so super duper oil rich families can oppress their populations and blame tiny Israel for only soo long before the martyr monsters they’ve created turn on them.
Palestinians are not a unique people or tribe they are Arabs from surrounding Israel being used as foot soldiers by the oil rich tyrants.
It’s nice to see the good people “Israel” finally fighting back.
Let’s hope they bring these murdering desert rats to their knees and make em choke on the buttons of their explosive vests, before they have an opportunity to kill innocent lives.
I am an Egyptian Arab and can tell you all that the Arafat/Palestinian cause, has done more damage to Arabs and Islam then anything else in recent history.
Israel is not a threat to anyone, they are a small group of Jews who barley escaped the horrors of Europe without a pot to piss in.
"...a bunch of antisemetic ignorant idiots..."
People against semen?
Love the sage historians considering decades against a backdrop of millenia.
Bravo, professors.
Israel has given the Pals so much and they have got nothing in return. Before Israel took over the West Bank there were no colleges there. Israel built every single one. And what did it get for it? Academic Arab professors who instigated war with Israel. Arabs living in Israel (20% of the population) have more rights than Arabs anywhere else in the Middle East. We always here about settlers being the problem but they are only a tiny portion of the West Bank population. Certainly if 20% of Israel's population can be Arab then 5% of the West Bank's can be Jewish.
The Pals indoctrinate hatred of Israelis with their Muslim mother's milk. Just read the transcripts of their radio and TV shows, particularly their children's programming. They are a vile people who do not want peace. They are setting themselves up for total destruction since the path they have chosen is one of constant war. No people or nation can expect to survive if all they want is war. If they live by the sword, they will die by it.
Israel has been nothing but patient with the Pals. It left Gaza three years ago and all they did was turn it into a rocket launching piece of dirt. Now that the Gazans can fire rockets into major cities, it's a whole new ballgame. And one they won't win in the long-run.
It's time for Israel to crush Hamas and the Gazans for good.
watching cnn right now. people in london protesting outside the israeli embassy. frickin crazy.
I'm from Asia, and I say Israel has done a TERRIBLE PR for the last 20 years every time they go on a bombing spree.
Don't forget. A majority of Asia, South America, Africa, even Middle East (read: a majority of the world) was colonized at one time or another. To many of them, colonial rule is still a living memory, w/ their independence coming around WW2.
When they (I certain do) see Israeli helicopters shooting into residential buildings and missiles exploding in the residential area, they see the extremely lopsided power struggle and the sufferings they imagine their ancestors must have gone through no so long ago. After all, it's a modern version of the struggle between the colonizer and the colonized. These images fuel their collective rage against such gross injustice and human suffering that they remember their recent history and identify more firmly w/ their country that emerged from colonization in recent history.
I feel enormous sympathy for the Palestinians. I don't think I have a single friend in my native country who's sympathetic to Israel. And we're a young generation in our early 30's.
Desperate people take desperate measures. Israeli "occupation" is not an occupation but a colonization. West Bank and Gaza are almost completely dependent on Israel economically. Oh by the way, this "occupation" has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN. What does it mean to you individually? Only the US and Israel have been ignoring the rest of the world.
With the coming of the waning US influence in the world (brought down by this economic meltdown and currency posed to get devalued), if a new power shift/balance is in store in the global scene, I can safely say Israel cannot do something like this and get away with it by running under the wings of the US. in not so distant future.
. The Palastinians are being killed slowly and surely by people who have been victims of hate and are now hostage to their own hatred. No more, stop it now, where is Obama? Well, he is watching...maybe pumping iron, maybe eating fruit ice while Palastinian children don't even have water and food and medicine.
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why do we have to solve this problem? why don't the arab nations get involved and work towards finding a way to get the palastinians their own country?
To those of you who believe in the poor Israeli victims, I can only say that your ignorance is only superceded by your blindness. Most of the world no longer allows the accusation of anti-semitism for accusers of to shield the Israelis from their reputation as murderous, cruel nazis perpetrating thier own Shoah. They use bunker busters supplied by the US to retailiate against a captive, starved people who for two years have been killed just as cruelly by the medical blockade. No chemotherapy, no dialysis, no insulin, no blood supply. Meanwhile the settlers, the illegal settlers attack and steal and murder without any intervention by the Israeli government. The Settlements are illegal, the right to return was guaranteed. There can only be a one state solution. There is great need for a peace but the use of excessive and unreasonable violence towards civilians who had no escape is not going to do anything but perpetuate the violence. Many good Jews are coming forward and condemning the violence and many angry non Jews are throwing shoes at the murderous Israeli dogs.
Religions, especially the three Abrahamic religions are the instigators of the conflicts in the Middle East, the slandering of Arabs and Muslims is ok but somehow the pitiful Jews are allowed to get away with murder like a spoiled child who once had a relative murdered. Most of the Shoah victims are now dead. That is right, never again, especially not in Palastine where the resistance is similar in its impact on the strong to the resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto. Wouldn't you too fight if you were being strangled to death?
wow keith never new your site appealed to a bunch of antisemitic ignorant idiots.
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they were attracted to HP too. funny (not ha ha funny) how antisemitic the left is. the left is full of closet bigots.
Go Israel!
I hope they drop a 2000 pound bomb for every rocket that is launched.
Tell me that the media coverage of this in the U.S. is not one-sidedly pro-Israel...just try. Israel has been in violation of UN Res.242 for over four decades, their abuse of Palestinians (in terms of border construction, transportation, water rights, further invasive occupancy of Palestinian territory, etc.) is brutal, and the U.S.'s propping up of Israel should end.
couldn't agree more with this post.
www.dailykos/storyonly/2008/12/28/114432/83/489
When it is us versus them, dehumanization occurs..
The whole concept of Israel was kind of nuts, not sustainable, and gets worse as the years and the abuse towards other continues..
They have been fighting over there for thousands of years and obviously have not yet shed enough blood to satisfy themselves (either side). They will keep fighting with whatever means they can get their hands on until someone's messiah comes (or comes back), or until one finds a way to completely destroy the other.
If I were Israel and had the resources they currently do, I would unleash complete and total holy hell on Gaza and southern Lebanon (not up to Beruit). The people around Israel hate them, always will, so who the f*** cares. They will kill less with one monster swipe than dragging this out another few generations or until one of the Muslim nations has the ability to do the same to Israel.
It is just a matter of time before one of the two sides decides to step it up a notch and go nuclear.
I'm a Syrian Arab living in the U.S.
The arabs need to stop shelling Israel and leave the Israelis alone. Hamas is bringing this upon themselves, as usual.
I suggest that the arabs there spend a bit more time trying to do something productive (i.e. grow some crops or something) rather than making bombs and blowing themselves and others up.
Also I'm surprised at how anti-semetic this site is. If you are going to build a hate site, why not do that elsewhere and leave this one to finance and economics?
MADOFF DESTROYED ISRAEL BY BANKRUPTING MOST JEWISH CHARITIES(AKA 'POLITICA ACTION COMMITTEES AND LOBBYING GROUPS'). THOSE 'CHARITIES' WERE NOT CLOTHING AND FEEDING HUNGRY AND HOMELESS CHILDREN AT ALL, AND DESERVED THEIR JUST PUNISHMENT!
IRAN DID NOT HAVE TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP...MADOFF DID IT FOR THEM!
YAHWEH WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!
ISRAEL'S ACTIONS IN THE GAZA IS THE MARK OF A BANKRUPT,ANGRY,DESPERATE COWARD!!
YES ISRAEL..YOU ARE A COWARD IN THE EYES OF THE WISE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD AND YOU COMMAND NO RESPECT AND NOT EVEN FEAR..
THE ONLY ATTENTION YOU GARNISH IS A FOUL STENCH IN THE NOSTRILS BECAUSE OF THE UNWASHED PERVERT THAT YOU ARE!!
MADOFF IS THE DISINFECTANT!!
"Never Again!"
What part of those two words do those murderous palestinians, and the arab A-Holes who support them, not understand?
who had Isreal when the cromagnums werte fighting the neanderthals............and as much as i would prefer not being smitten from heaven in the skys above by anyones gods.i say screw them all...........
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread422922/pg1
Why is it that when anyone says Israel is brutish in their treatment to the Pal's they are instantly labeled an anti semite. So much for the 'tolerance' they want.
Anon 4:38:
The Pals indoctrinate hatred of Israelis with their Muslim mother's milk. Just read the transcripts of their radio and TV shows, particularly their children's programming. They are a vile people who do not want peace. They are setting themselves up for total destruction since the path they have chosen is one of constant war. No people or nation can expect to survive if all they want is war. If they live by the sword, they will die by it."
If there are Jewish Nazis, you are one. Disgusting.
Spent close to 10 years working with Israelis in the defense sector. Personally witnessed how the American Jewish politco network works Congress.
Mind you Israel now gets $3B annually in US support. Folks this escalation is merely to assure Israel gets its share and more from Obama as he and the Dem Congress form their plans to dole out the precious few dollars left in the Gov't budget. Better first to fund Israel than help the indigent and unemployed in this country (and spend the money at home). What's a few Pali's lives in support of subtle lobbying for more funds.
Another fleecing of America.
“...The whole concept of Israel was kind of nuts, not sustainable, and gets worse as the years and the abuse towards other continues..”
Oh please.
I mean, what is the problem with the Arabs? If someone showed up at my house in Passthegass New Jersey and pointed out that by the authority of their holy book they owned my ranch house and the land beneath it, I’d just pack up and leave.
Keith- love the post. it's really got everyone's panties in a bunch on here :-)
more controversy! please!!
ftr, f both sides.
the only good Arab is a dead Arab.
Go Israel!!
Group punishment that is not proportional to the crime is criminally unjust. Any sympathy toward Israel has vanished, just as sympathy vanished toward the United States when Bush attacked Iraq.
You're very stupid if you don't realize that this fake Israeli/Hamas conflict is a cheap attempt to bring the price of oil up. Unbelievable, how can't you see that? Just look a the timing and the coverage by the corrupt media, alleging that the current increase in oil prices is due to the Israeli/Hamas conflict. Due to "Disturbance in the Middle East".
Wake up, sheeple. You screw this mafia back by cutting even more in fuel expenses or any expense for that matter. The more they try to pump oil prices up, the less you should drive or consume. We have the power as consumers. Don't consume anything and don't invest in the rigged stock market. Let the crooks die.
When Israel is done doing our job cleaning the scum of the earth in its backyard, I hope she nukes Saudi Arabia next.
You may ask why not nuke Iran next; the answer is cause the Saudis are systemically killing the global education system by inserting radical professors everywhere.
With that said:
Dear brave Israel; once again it appears you are out there alone defending the good for all of us…
Our local chapter of the ‘Knights of Columbus’ are praying for you Israel!
MAY THE WIND BE AT YOUR BACK.
MAY YOUR ENEMIES FALL AND CRUMBLE AT YOUR FEET.
VICTORY IS YOURS!
Hey Keith, it seems your blog is filled with Madoff-people. Don't you Mossad freaks have anything else better to do, like polishing your menorahs, counting money from your heists, or bombing kids to bring the price of oil up?
Remember sheeple, all these conflicts are fake, invented only to make money for the same shady groups. IT'S ALL RIGGED!
What hubris! Slaughter, of men, women and children without regard of human life or justice. Israel is powerful now, but god help them when things change in the near, or far future. History proves that things do change, Jews were enslaved by the Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Romans, and the Greeks.
The last one will be the Arabs/and or Islam.
This site is full of anti-semites because a lot of Keith's followers are Leftists and they have become, over the past couple of decades, the new anti-semites. The Arabs, socialists, and communists who make up a good portion of the Left hate Jews and Israel.
Remember, the NAZIs were socialists. NAZI is an acronym, not a word. It stands for National Socialists. The Left decided to change it to a word some time ago to read as "Nazi" so no one would ask the question, "What does NAZI stands for?". What sleazy bastards. Too ashamed to admit their movement is genocidal and was the cause of 60 million deaths in Europe and Russia in WWII.
I'm amazed that people would actually vote for supporting Hamas in Keith's poll. That's an open invitation to federal authorities to investigate this site and those people since Hamas is a terrorist organization.
The Left continues to deny that Hamas started all of this...they can do no wrong. They just want to hide their heads in the desert sand. Hamas now has Iranian rockets that can reach Israel's major population centers. This changes everything. They clearly want a war with Israel and they got it. I hope Israel wipes them out for good.
the only good black angus is the one who stops taking murder and racism and learns how to read and think and love. However, we have to love him anyhow and try to find the humanity in him. It is very hard and very hard to find the humanity in the Israelis right now too. As John Lennon said, just give peace a chance.
So there are defenders of Israel who want the Jews to kill every person in Palestine, Saudi Arabia and Iran because it was so wrong that the Nazis tried to kill every Jew in Europe. You support genocide BY the Jews because it was wrong to commit genocide ON the Jews. See a bit of illogic there, folks?
Only a few commenters have pointed out that Israel has been strangling the Gaza Palestinians with its economic blockade. That's the main reason the Gazans are pissed off enough to fire those rockets, which are weak, inaccurate pieces of crap compared to a supersonic guided missile packed with high explosives. The Israelis are killing 100 Palestinians for every Israeli who gets killed. What should the proper ratio be, Israel defenders -- 1,000 to one? 10,000? Kill every bearded man, every scarfed-up woman, every snot-nosed kid in Gaza? Give me a number.
FWIW, I don't hate Israel. My sweat and blood (courtesy of the time I nicked my thumb with a machete whilst cutting back dead leaves in the banana plantation) is in the soil of Eretz Israel after I spent a summer as a guest worker on a socialist kibbutz near the Golan Heights. Although I'm not Jewish, my daughter is via my ex-wife's lineage. I don't hate Israel. I just hate what the country is doing. And it WILL be their downfall. Remember the Crusades? The outsiders did all right for a hundred years or so, but they kept pissing off the local folks, and it ended badly for the new kids on the block.
A smart but nameless Anon said...
You're very stupid if you don't realize that this fake Israeli/Hamas conflict is a cheap attempt to bring the price of oil up. Unbelievable, how can't you see that? Just look a the timing and the coverage by the corrupt media, alleging that the current increase in oil prices is due to the Israeli/Hamas conflict. Due to "Disturbance in the Middle East".
Wake up, sheeple. You screw this mafia back by cutting even more in fuel expenses or any expense for that matter. The more they try to pump oil prices up, the less you should drive or consume. We have the power as consumers. Don't consume anything and don't invest in the rigged stock market. Let the crooks die.
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RayNLA said...
EXACTLY!
Not to mention this is the perfect time to get everyone's attention away from a weakening dollar as Ben flies his helicopter with the door open and one foot out.
He told us in 2002 didn't you listen?
RayNLA
I can't believe the number of people here who say Keith and this blog is Anti-Semitic. Just because someone disagrees with Israel doesn't mean they are Anti-Semitic!
The thing that really pisses me off is that there are so many Jewish Americans who support Israel before they support America. That is just plain Anti-American. If you love Israel that much, then go live over there and don't ask us for one thin red cent!
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MADOFF = ALL ISRAELIS.
No difference whatsoever.
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Dear Israel,
Don’t look for support on the outside, very much like our individual personal growth.
Ignore the noise of those who are never there to help you and are always there to support chaos and anarchy, cause as you know misery loves company.
Even if you where to give away all your material assets to them for free they would still wake up each morning and write books, comment on blogs etc. and conspire against you, actually the nicer you are the more they hate you.
Your worthless enemies are barbaric animals; they will surrender like the cowards they are!
Have no fear, the ‘international community’ will do as much as they did to the Germans after committing genocide, they will do as much as they did to Sudan after committing Darfur genocide, as much as they did to Briton for what they did to the Irish, Welsh, and Scotts, as much as they did to the Americans for what they did to the Natives etc.etc.
One big nothing! Even though they where horribly wrong.
Yet you are in the right!
Bring them to their knees; they will surrender with your boots in their mouth.
GO ISRAEL!
This is just another reason why the Middle-East has such contempt for us.
I have Jewish friends, and when I bring up this topic, they usually get defensive.
The very people who Hitler persecuted are now the persecutors
with US tax-payer supported dollars.
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Irish American said...12:17am
Bravo! Well said!
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Where is Honica Jewinski when you need her?
Moron ,idiot = person who wrote this...... MADOFF = ALL ISRAELIS.
No difference whatsoever
The whole episode saddens me. I see little difference between terror by smart bombs or terror by suicide bombs. All I can say is that 1 is a coward. F all of them. Let them do this without our help & without our bombs. Anyone who disagrees should check w/the founding fathers & maybe find a new country.
Bukko in Australia wrote:
"Only a few commenters have pointed out that Israel has been strangling the Gaza Palestinians with its economic blockade. That's the main reason the Gazans are pissed off enough to fire those rockets, which are weak, inaccurate pieces of crap..."
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!
Bukko, you are delusional if you think Hamas shoots rockets into Israel because of a sea blockade. There's no blockade via the Egyptian border...in fact, that's how they get rockets into Gaza. And by the way, all the western powers cut off political and economic relations with them once they were elected to power by the Gazans.
Bukko's statement really sums up the naivete and cognitive dissonance of the Left: they simply refuse to admit the truth that Hamas and the Palestinians want to see Israel destroyed. That's the way it's been since 1948, and in particular 1964 when the PLO was formed under Jordanian and Egyptian occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.
Hamas fired rockets before the blockade, they fire rockets with it, and will fire rockets even if it goes away. The strategy is to build up the arsenal to the same level as Hezzbolah in Lebanon and then to engage in a protracted war of attrition -- based on rockets and missles -- where Israel either gives up and dissolves or the people leave and the country implodes. That's the strategy. And it will work unless Israel hits them hard and for a long time. That's what they're doing and hopefully it will work.
Until the Left faces the fact that the Palestinians simply do not accept Israel as a country, we will continue to have these inane and worthless discussions.
In the meantime, Israel has to do what it feels it must to stop the aggression against its people. And even in the face of massive dead, Hamas continues to shoot rockets. That speaks volumes to their fanatical hatred of Israel. Like the NAZIs (the German National Socialist Party), after which Hamas models itself, they will go into the ash heap of history. Someday, but not before ruination to their people.
Bukko, try living in your town with 10 rockets a day reigning down upon it that have been shot by your Aborigines (the ones you screwed over so badly). You and your wife will be singing a different tune very quickly.
This post was in the top lists of GIYUS.org the israeli propaganda machine to help skew user comments in favor of israel.
The Palestinians have every right to be pissed. The Brits took 90% the Palestinians prime land and gave it to the Israelis while they partitioned the Palestinians into non-farmable plots of dead soil.
The same ungrateful Israelis suicide bombed the Brits out in 1948. I really wish the US would stop supporting Israel. I say we let them start what they can't control, when they beg for help offer them the glass parking lot solution, BOOM.
JaneZ said...
Where is Honica Jewinski when you need her?
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Visiting some other HATE website, probably.
Antisemitism, ultimate knowledge, sheer writeoff of the comment are tactical tools used by the Jewish community for years to fend off any accusation of brutality, reverse descrimination by Jews. Note I don't say Israeli's. I have many Israeli friends who I met while I worked there for a company. The Jewish mantra is an American Jew phenomena which developed to cement America's tie to Israel. It carries over from Hollywood to Wall Street.
Many Israelis don't care for their American cousins (but like their money).
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What the F**K part of Hamas is a terrorist organization do you have trouble understanding?
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Israel Cannot be destroyed nor will it be!
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DON'T MAKE COME DOWN THERE!!!!
GOD
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Unfortunately, the Aborigines are too disorganised to get together a good rocket barrage. Although if they could fashion missile bodies from old beer stubby tins, they'd have ample raw materiel! Since they have an unfortunate habit of sniffing petrol to get high, I hesitate to think what they'd do with rocket fuel, too.
Bukko,
you're a class act. not to mention a racist.
thanks for your personal insights on your native population. typical liberal, elitist, arrogant, mean-spirited, nasty, and mindless drivel.
I know, you aren't always like this....when you are at cocktail parties with your liberal friends you wax eloquent about the plight of your natives. you know, much concern, furrowed brow, "such a shame", etc., etc. etc. But then you go on blogs and stomp them into the ground for the worthless, petrol sniffing subhumans that you would like them to be.
Note to Bukko: clean up your own backyard before you start trying to cleanup Israel's.
Besides, the entire world knows that all of you in Oz are descendants of criminals, rapists, and murderers. Why should we give their offspring any notice at all? And why don't you tell everyone here your lineage so we can see how many criminals are part of your family tree. (yes, I'm assuming you're a "native white" since only one of those types could make fun of the Aborigines).
the rockets Hamas is launching are home made "Qassam" type kind of like home made science projects..99% of them don't hit any human target, Hamas should NOT be shooting instead try to govern and shower regularly..
Let's cut the PC. The majority of Arabs hate the West (especially the US). We have the hammer so let's just hammer them.
Mammoth said...
JaneZ said...
Where is Honica Jewinski when you need her?
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Visiting some other HATE website, probably.
It doesn't get much more hateful than what I am reading here today. Honica was eloquent compared to some of these posts. Somehow we even ended up with Aborigine bashing. What does that have to do with the Israelis bombing Gaza back to the stone age anyway?
Nothing like blowing body parts into orbit with God's approval to bring out the best in everybody.
Thank you for your unfailingly polite comment, Anonymous at 2:59 a.m. I will concede to being a descendant of genocidal murderers, because I'm American from way back. When my dad died last year, I was cleaning out his library (among other things, three boxes of Betamax porn! Can you imagine?) I came across a geneaology book from the Pitkin side of the family tree. Some of 'em went back to New England in 1629.
So my peeps were slaughtering Indians 150 years before Captain Cook gave the first fatal case of venereal disease to a Koori woman. But I immigrated to Oz in 2005 so I wouldn't have to keep paying taxes for realPresident Cheney's genocide in the oil patch. That's my get-out-of-hell-free card.
Note to Anonymous: when someone has those blue letters on their name with these comments, click on it. There's often a personal profile attached! Of course, it could all be lies, like ads in singles-seeking-love pages, but it's neat to see what kinds of bullshit people say about themselves.
As for people of Aboriginal descent, let me assure you that I literally wipe their arses. I'm a hospital nurse, so I wipe the arse of people from every ethnic and religious group. FWIW, they all stink the same. In truth, I don't wipe as many myall arses as I do other groups, because down here in the chilly southern state, we don't have many left. Queensland and the N.T., that's where you find 'em.
It's a sad thing about the Aborigines. They're round pegs in the square hole that white people have turned Australia into. Unfortunately, they suffer from problems that the cruel neocon government of John Howard couldn't solve, and neither can the wishy-washy slightly left-of-centre government of Kevin Rudd.
Yes, I make mild sport of Aborigines. I take the mick at other groups too. Hospital nurses snark behind the backs of all our patients, except the ones who die with quiet dignity. And those patients aren't even in a position to care!
But I save my most toxic venom for when I talk about my fellow Americans. That goes over well here, as it does all over the world. "America" is the planet's new Polack joke, only with a nasty, killing edge to it.
My take is this
Israel has the right to self-defense, and should destroy Hamas, a terrorist organization who has been bombing Israel.
They should now invade Gaza, kill anyone associated with Hamas, destroy all of their facilities and assets, and be done with it.
And then the Palestinians will have a choice. Recognize Israel, renounce terrorism, celebrate their new statehood, receive massive foreign investment, and live in peace and prosperity.
Or they can keep supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, keep terrorizing, keep living in poverty and ignorance, and keep destroying themselves.
Their choice. And until then, I hope Israel has the courage to take care of business. Including dropping bombs on Iran's nuke facilities.
This isn't a jewish issue. This is a matter of a nation defending itself from terrorists and from countries who have called for its destruction.
It's time to resolve this matter once and for all.
Let's get it on.
http://www.guesswhosthejew.com
This site is full of anti-semites because a lot of Keith's followers are Leftists and they have become, over the past couple of decades, the new anti-semites.
Not really, I despise ultraliberals, but I'm not stupid enough tho be taking sides with selfish crooks (aka Madoff People). Remember people, refer only to Israelis as "Madoffs" from now on.
Perhaps this has been said, but...
The level of rhetoric coming out of Isreal leads me to believe it's a diversion from their bigger intentions...Iran. I get the feeling Isreal is drawing in an international community for support before they make their big play against Iran.
Bukko,
My apologies for calling you a native white of Oz. It didn't occur to me that an immigrant would make such callous and racist remarks about a native population in the country that ALLOWED him to immigrate to and become a citizen (presumably). That you are an immigrant -- and a recent on at that -- and are making fun of the native population is a hell of a lot WORSE than if you were born there.
America has always been hated by many countries around the world, particularly France and other autocratic regimes. Why? Because they hate the ideals of liberty, freedom, and free enterprise. These concepts are polar opposites to the archaic ideas of behavioral control, intimidation, and planned economy, which constitute the core philosophies of the vast majority of the countries of the world. The very fact of America's existence is an existential threat to most countries in the world. That's the fact. And that's why America is hated so much, in addition to our incredible ability to invent, create, and influence the world. I suspect that there were similar feelings by countries when other powers in the past (Britain, France, Spain, etc.) ruled and/or influenced the globe.
It is a badge of honor to be hated for these ideals because those countries are so far behind us in terms of political philosophy, culture, and technology. Having said this, I don't look down upon these countries but encourage them to try to adopt the ideals enshrined in our federal Constitution. Indeed, if you know anything about history you would know that many, many countries have simply lifted sections out of that document and used them as the basis for their own Constitutions or for their own laws. The most recent being Iraq.
For those of you who support the Muslims/Hamas/Hezbollah in their war against Israel, I say you should vote with your feet and go live in one of the Middle Easern countries...with your wife, girlfriend, or daughters. I suspect that if you do you would be making a beeline to the nearest western democracy (Israel) in very short order (of course, you would say something nasty about the place and then fly off to a more comfortable environment).
By the way, that you would shame your deceased father for broadcasting his sexual interests that were certainly private to him via the internet speaks a lot about you. But it does not surprise me since your type is typical of so many of those on the Left...i.e. infantile, irrationally rebellious, self absorbed, disrespectful, and possessing a complete lack of character.
Good luck in Oz. Feel free to continue spewing your "toxic venom" about your former country, the U.S., to your small circle of Leftist friends.
Honestly, we don't give a shit.
Warm regards,
The United States of America
if wall street were black, "the cribs would burn'...( think about it ).........
Good for Keith for, as usual, seeing the issue in the clearest possible terms.
The arabs need to focus on building up infrastructure and the ability for their people to be productive. This culture of death and destruction and sociopathic behavior is not going to get them anywhere.
Israel please get on with it already and do what is required.
By the way, that you would shame your deceased father for broadcasting his sexual interests that were certainly private to him via the internet speaks a lot about you.
Oh, mate, you slay me! But I appreciate the compliment you give me by taking time to read my words and comment on them in your nameless, faceless way.
First thing is, my dad's dead. He doesn't give a rosy rat's rear end any more. Second thing, do you know my dad's name? Do you know mine? I didn't think so. So how can it shame a person, even if he was still alive, if there's no identification?
And since I'm a godless liberal, I'm not worried about ol' Dad's spirit frowning down on me. His ashes are doing the mausoleum nap in a wall in Arlington National Cemetery, but that's all there is. Dad was career Army but he got left-wing after retirement, and he got a kick out of my voluntary political exile thing.
That's the beauty of teh Internets toobez. It's pure intellect (or lack of it) with no identity. A floating free-for-all of words without faces, where anything can be said without harm to a person, as long as one doesn't get too specific. Which is why I can be as blatant as I am about my alleged life. Who knows? It could all be a lie.
BTW, have you ever been to France? Mrs. Bukko demands a holiday to Paris every year, which isn't easy to do from down here. We speak passable Francais, and love the country. We even flew a French flag outside the front window of our house in San Francisco as a protest at the start of the Iraq slaughter. (As you've noted, we're card-carrying liberals, so it's a requirement that we be Francophiles.)
You think the Frenchies are autocratic? Mate, that's the country where the workers regularly go on nationwide strikes to knock back the government when it gets in the way of workers' rights. My French friends are proud of how their national culture sneers at the leadership. They're anotty, anti-authoritarian buggers, those French. That's part of why I like them, in addition to the good food and wine. America should be more like France!
Fact: The Madoff People (aka Israelis) will ALWAYS lie, cheat, steal, and destroy peoples lives.
The Palestinians live in an apartheid state and the world's largest outdoor prison. We get satellite TV at home and not ABC.CBS.NBC etc so we see the other side and no we're not Arabs. Even the BBC has more balance in reporting. AIPAC owns Congress and Walt and Mersheimer are right. When the majority of this country wakes up to that fact there will be hell to pay.
>> why do we have to solve this problem? why don't the arab nations get involved and work towards finding a way to get the palastinians their own country?
Because the Palestinians are the niggers of the MidEast. No one, not even their own Arab brothers, want them.
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