November 18, 2008

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey!! Well done Keith! You finally had a look at World Trade Center 7!

I'm proud of you. Even if you don't follow the lead any further at least you had a look at it.

So does that look like a steel structured building that collapsed from a few isolated fires? NISTs report claims that "thermal expansion" caused that remarkably rapid, symmetrical and uniform collapse into it's own footprint that looks strangely like a controlled demolition.

I guess all those explosions that people heard were just popcorn popping in the fire.

Bwahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

That's Max Kaiser. He was on the Alex Jones show yesterday. It's really worth listening to the Alex Jones show as he has excellent guests even if you think Alex's views are "kooky".

Regardless of whether his views are kooky are not he has great guests that are free to speak their mind on his show. Very entertaining and thought provoking stuff.

And here is a must see doco from AJ:

Terrorstorm

Hey, maybe you're ready to go back and look at the Zapruder film now, Keith. Take a look at Kennedy's head as it flies backwards upon the impact of the bullet in the opposite direction of where Oswald's magic bullet supposedly originated from. Magic Bullet indeed!!

And as the mass media has neglected to mention we have the deathbed confession of the E Howard Hunt (one of the Watergate burglars) admitting that he was involved in the murder of JFK on video.

The only news outlet to release it was Alex Jones Infowars:

E Howard Hunt Spills the Beans on JFK Assassination

Strange that the national media did not pick up on this, no?

blogger said...

I will never believe "they blew them up" conspiracy theories about 9/11. I saw planes hit those buildings, from 1000 different angles, and then the buildings caught on fire and fell. And the buildings around them.

That said, I will listen to conspiracy theories about who benefited the most from 9/11 (hint - Haliburton. The Military Industrial Complex. Bush. Cheney. Lockheed.) And how they could have organized it. Using planes.

What's happened in world finance should also have people investigating conspiracy theories. (Hint - JPMorgan. Goldman Sachs. Paulson.)

I posted this video without comment because I want to hear what you all have to say.

And on the economic meltdown - give me your best conspiracy theory. Make it make sense.

Anonymous said...

Did they win in the end?

Anonymous said...

I will never believe "they blew them up" conspiracy theories about 9/11. I saw planes hit those buildings, from 1000 different angles, and then the buildings caught on fire and fell. And the buildings around them.


Well, that's fine you can believe whatever you want to believe. Personally, I believe those towers were brought down by explosives. Yes they were hit by planes. We all saw that but for the "shock and awe" factor those towers had to be brought down by explosives.

The WTC towers were designed to withstand the impact of planes. A DC10 I believe hit the Empire State Building so the designers of the WTC towers were well aware that impacts from aircraft were a possibility.

On top of that we have all of the eyewitness testimony describing the explosions including explosions in the basement of the towers that occured before the plane impacts. We also have the excellent research of Dr Steven Jones who has found thermate residue (thermate is an explosive used in controlled demolition).

So you may call it a "conspiracy theory" but there is physical evidence and eyewitness testimony that supports what I'm saying. Whether you will pursue this information yourself is up to you...

9/11 was the Neoconservatives "New Pearl Harbor" to achieve their goals. They wrote about the need for a "New Pearl Harbor" prior to 9/11 in their "Project for the New American Century" documents.

Anonymous said...

and then the buildings caught on fire and fell.

BTW - Buildings are designed to withstand fire you know. The three WTC towers were the first steel-structured towers to collapse due to fire in history. Now some say, well they were hit by planes so that made them fall. Not WTC7. The damage to WTC7 was minimal and that's why it is the smoking gun of 9/11.

But that's enough on this topic from me. I've learned that if people don't have a natural curiosity to want to learn more about 9/11 after seeing the collapse of WTC7 then it is really pointless arguing with them.

Anonymous said...

I will admit those Buildings fell like butter, I have never seen something fall so vertically symmetric. I recall when I was watching this live that when it did fall, I was astounded that it had fallen the way it did.

Almost everyone I know said the same thing, it looked like it had been a demolition, perhaps it was.

Building 7 which wasn't hit is very odd to had fallen the way it did. Something just isn't right! I have watched some slow motion video on these conspiracy theories , and there is one where you can see the iron being melted at critical points in the structure before the actual building falls on it, very weird!

blogger said...

Again, I love a good conspiracy. But the key word is "good".

The first 9/11 truthers were all about 'nah, those weren't planes that hit the buildings!' - even though it was one of the most photographed events in world history.

Now it's morphed into WTC 7.

OK, why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off?

And do you admit that planes struck the other towers, full of jet fuel, and they fell as a result? Or were tons and tons of bombs used there too?

Give me a good theory to work with.

And then, of course, who did it, and why

Floor's yours.

And for extra credit, give me Paulson/Goldman/TARP

Anonymous said...

I was there that day. I saw the towers from an office window on the 3rd floor of the World Financial Center South Tower. I saw the glass blow out of the windows from the first plane strike.

There were 2 explosions - those of the planes hitting. The impact shook the surrounding buildings. A picture on the wall rattled, but there were only 2 big booms.

2 planes hit full of fuel. I saw the flames and the smoke first hand.

Anonymous said...

first bailouts for the financial community.

Now one for Detroit.

How about one for home builders?

We gave one to retailers back in June via the first stimulus checks.

Anonymous said...

The WTC towers were designed to withstand the impact of planes. A DC10 I believe hit the Empire State Building so the designers of the WTC towers were well aware that impacts from aircraft were a possibility.
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it was a b-25, prop plane, in 1945, traveling at a estimated speed of 200MPH.

big difference in planes, building structure, impact locations, on and on.

Anonymous said...

Now it's morphed into WTC 7.

OK, why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off?
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oh, how about the time and effort it would take to plant the explosives and weaken the structure (so that it is ensured to collapse) all the while doing while not being noticed.

Plus there would have been remnants of the explosive devices electronics used to detonate them as they wouldn't have run wires all through the building connected to a master detonation device.

Anonymous said...

If you look at any controlled demolition you will see that the buildings collapse from the bottom up NOT from the top down like the WTC buildings.

Anonymous said...

"OK, why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off?
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Many did hear explosions, including members of the FDNY. The interviews are there, and easy to find. Also look for pic of vertical I-beams sheared off at a 45 degree angle.

Then there's Dr. Steven Jones.

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html

Anonymous said...

The first 9/11 truthers were all about 'nah, those weren't planes that hit the buildings!' - even though it was one of the most photographed events in world history.

I'm not aware that the theory "morphed" at any stage. Are there people that say no planes hit. Sure but they are of course disproven by the video evidence. To my knowledge there has not been any "morphing" going on just different groups of people with different ideas. I'm far more interested in the research done by very respectful scientists, whistelblowers and intellectuals like:

Dr Steven Jones

Kevin Ryan - Whistleblower and Lab Director at Underwriter's Laboratories

David Ray Griffin

None of these individuals ever claimed that there were "no planes".


OK, why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off?

You're kidding right?

Here's just a small sample of the survivor's themselves describing their experience:

Barry Jennings

Willie Rodriguez

9/11 Eyewitness Bombs Evidence - Part 1/3

9/11 Eyewitness

Loud Explosion (17 seconds)

9/11 Firefighters on Controlled Demolition

That's just doing a quick search for videos I've seen before. There's a mountain of eyewitness testimony of bombs going off in the buildings.

Now you're asking me to explain the whole series of events, who did it, why etc etc...

How can I possibly know exactly who did it and what their motivations were? I have a few ideas but I can't possibly prove them any more than you (or the FBI) can prove that Osama Bin Laden did it. The FBI still has not charged Bin Laden with the attacks because of a lack of evidence tying Bin Laden to the crime. Did you know that?

I do have some ideas though. As this film details there is much evidence to believe that Mossad was involved. Perhaps to get the US involved in the Middle East.

Fabled Enemies

And of course, I've already mentioned "The Project for the New American Century" call for a "New Pearl Harbor" which should be required reading for anyone that wants to understand the Bush Administration.

Project for the New American Century Website


Read their documents and it's all spelled out in clear language. Paraphrasing : they wanted a revolution in military affairs for "full spectrum dominance of the globe" and they needed a "new Pearl Harbor" as a "catalyzing, catastrophic event".

You also need to understand that Osama Bin Laden essentially worked for the CIA during the Afghan war. You can find a photo of Zbigniew Brzezinski (Obama's foreign policy advisor) with Osama Bin Laden back in the early 80s. Do a google image search.

Oh and one other thing. You should also know that the US military has considered false flag attacks on American civilians to justify war before. The declassified documents of "Operation Northwoods" prove this:

Operation Northwoods

So there is nothing crazy about thinking that those in power would do something like 9/11 to achieve their goals. There is plenty of historical precedent.

Anonymous said...

Keith, there are so many eye witness accounts of from firefighters who claimed to have heard multiple explosions throughout the buildings (especially in the basement)before the building collapsed.

To say "why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off" indicates that you are unaware of the testimony of so many who were there and who did hear bombs.

It seems so closed-minded of you and uncharacteristic.

I urge you to watch the film - Loose Change.

Anonymous said...

And do you admit that planes struck the other towers, full of jet fuel, and they fell as a result? Or were tons and tons of bombs used there too?

Oh sorry, I didn't answer this bit. Yes, of course planes hit the twin towers. They were full of jet fuel but the jet fuel burned off rapidly AND jet fuel is incapable of reaching a temperature hot enough to melt or even weaken steel to the point it would have had to cause an instantaneous collapse. This was proven by NISTs own experiments on World Trade Center steel!!

You can see that the fires had burned out quickly and were not producing excessive heat because there were survivors standing in the impact holes and there was black smoke from an (oxygen starved fire) pouring out of the building.

Please see some of the analysis of the building and collapse by experts like Richard Gage of Architects for 9/11 Truth:

9/11: Blueprint for Truth


So yes, the planes did hit the towers but these towers were designed to withstand the impact of planes. They were reinforced with heavily redundant core of 47 steel columns encased in concrete. They were not made out of ply wood!!

Anyway, all of your questions have been explored and addressed by many others so it's redundant for me to type all of this out. I've provided some good references. Please follow them up.

Anonymous said...

Why do they keep blocking new investigations into the collapse. If there's nothing to hide let them look. Where is the wreckage.. How can a fresh sesna pilot figure out how to fly a Jet liner and then manage to hit something. How come it looks like a missle hit the pentagon. How come most of the passengers were govt officials. How come the asbestos lined earsore structures that needed hundreds of millions of port authority money to clean up collapse so perfectly.. How Come ... How Come.. THeres way to many questions. Oh yea and where are the WMD's? So lets cover it up by giving the pesents money for a free ride.. Hey it's all gone now? What happend.. Why? ... Nothing is by accident.. All that was left from the WTC was rubble and skulls and Bones...

Paul E. Math said...

I'll admit that I've given serious thought to the idea of an active PPT that manipulates stock prices. But my take is not quite as devious as others portray it.

Whether the PPT exists or not, I don't think Paulson, Bernanke, Greenspan or anyone else has engaged in a concerted effort to screw over the american investor. I think they did it by accident.

I think Greenspan really believed that he was helping the economy.

I think Paulson is doing his very best to create a stable environment, not just for his cronies, but for the american people.

I do believe they lie to us right through teeth but they do so because they, like the paternalistic liberals, think they know better and think that we need these fairy tales because we're not mature enough for the truth. Hey, maybe they're even right.

Still, I hate being lied to, especially by those in positions of authority.

When the lies don't work to restore confidence, or the events expose your lies for what they are, then you typically find yourself telling even bigger ones to cover your tracks. Next thing you know you're not even thinking about what the truth is anymore - you're just extending and building upon your prior falsehoods.

What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

That's about where Paulson, Bernanke, Bush, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd are right now.

Anonymous said...

Love Max Keiser, especially when he goes off on Paulson and Bernanke. I'm not much of a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, but always entertained by Keiser.

Anonymous said...

Uh, Keith, the "reporter" on the program was "reporting" from Iran.

"Banker" is the latest PC term that anti-semites use for Da Jooos.

This video is just more conspiracy theory dreck -- and you don't have to love Paulson's f***-ups to see it. I don't.

Tyrone said...

Keith,
This was a good flurry of adjectives in describing those surrounding Obama.
start at 4:30
Gerald Celente 11-13-08 Part 1 of 6
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Anonymous said...

OK, why didn't anyone hear bombs or explosions going off?

All the firefighters' oral histories are available online.

Lots of filler, but there are some real doozies in there.

Love to hear an explanation of why they would falsely testify.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the 9-11 event ,not everything can be explained .They have never really proven that the United States knew that Japan was going to attack Pear harbor either .

The Terrorist brought the World Trade Center down and they have
admitted to it.

Terrorist have the profile of doing the acts of bringing down a building with innocent civilians
in it . They have proven time and time again that they are chicken-
sh*t cowards that enjoy attacking innocent people and blowing them up .

My theory on Paulson and his gang is as follows . This is a case
where I really think the Treasury Sec. was bias and was protecting his own ass as well as the industry that he was part of .
Mr Paulsons methods reek of a sneaky person who has a hidden
agenda . In his own mind he might of thought that whats good for the industry he belonged to is good for America .

But,Congress and the Senate allowed the power they gave Paulson, so Congress and the Senate had something to gain by
giving this much power to a individual . In spite of having
Professors from all over the World object to the Bail Outs or the manner in which they were proposed by Paulson ,the Politicians gave him the power anyway ,and a big blank check . It's proves just how powerful certain special interest groups are with the lawmakers .

I also think that the Feds made so many short term loans to banks and investment firms ,but I think they started to default on those loans ,so the need to just carry it over to capital injections became
necessary .

Anonymous said...

If you want to look at another aspect of 9/11 consider:

On Sep 10 2001 Rumsfeld stated that $2.3 trillion of Pentagon money was unaccounted for.
You Tube http://tiny.cc/Etkuz

Was it a coincidence that the next day the Pentagon attack hit the Resource Services dept. were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts worked ?

Also notice that Enron (the accounting irregularities specialists) closed up shop about the same time.

Thomas E White was a vice chairman at Enron, US Secretary of the Army (at the Pentagon), and in Oct 2001 named as the Defense Department's executive agent for homeland security (at the time that anthrax attacks posed the potential for marshal law).

US Army Secretary Helped Cook Enron's Books http://tiny.cc/YQmGO

Strange that he wasn't indicted along with the other Enron execs ?

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