February 13, 2009

When the real story is told, one of the most important chapters will be how Ayn Rand, via Alan Greenspan, took over the American financial system

And then brought about its collapse.

I give you in its entirety an important and amazingly prescient Op-Ed from 2000 by Ralph Nader on Alan Greenspan, his association with Ayn Rand, and the destruction of the American financial regulatory apparatus.

Which as we know now destroyed the American financial system, and led to one of the biggest financial collapses in world history.


Greenspan Shrugged: The Reserve Chair's Philosophy Differs Little From His Ayn Rand Days

by Ralph Nader
Published on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 in the San Francisco Bay Guardian

Last year Congress made Federal Reserve Board chair Alan Greenspan a virtual regulatory czar over financial services corporations. Considering the waves of adulation that have been sweeping over Greenspan, the anointment was not a surprise.

It would be reasonable to assume that before placing this important regulatory power under the Federal Reserve, Congress undertook a careful review of Greenspan's regulatory philosophy and record. You can toss that assumption in the nearest trash can.

Congress knows little and cares less about how Greenspan views the government's role in protecting the public interest and the public purse. The same is true for the three presidents -- Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and William Clinton -- who have appointed and reappointed Greenspan to four terms as chair of the Federal Reserve.

A causal observer of Senate confirmation hearings would be led to believe that financial regulation has nothing to do with the job of Federal Reserve chair. The issue never comes up. It is the rarest of occurrences when a congressional oversight hearing places a Federal Reserve official in the dock over financial regulatory shortcomings.

Yet Congress, with only half-hearted opposition from the Clinton administration's Treasury Department, handed Greenspan and the Federal Reserve the regulatory plums when it authorized the merger of banks, securities firms, and insurance companies under common ownership in giant conglomerates. The safety and soundness of the nation's financial system will rest heavily on how vigorously the Federal Reserve carries out its responsibility.

For longtime watchers of Greenspan the move was incongruous, if not outright risky. As a disciple of Ayn Rand, later as an economic guru for the Republican Party, and still later as a lobbyist for financial corporations, Greenspan has disagreed with regulation as a tool to protect consumers and the well-being of a free enterprise economy. Greenspan has argued that the self-interest of the corporations – the desire of corporations to protect their reputation – was all that was necessary for consumer protection.

In an article published in 1963 as part of Ayn Rand's book Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, Greenspan declared that protection of the consumer against "dishonest and unscrupulous business was the cardinal ingredient of welfare statism."

"Regulation which is based on force and fear undermines the moral base of business dealings," he wrote. "Protection of the consumer by regulation ... is illusory."

Some may well argue that these diatribes against regulation were part of a passing phase in Greenspan's career. Perhaps, but this philosophy was alive and well when Greenspan, as a consultant-lobbyist, badgered federal regulators. In one case, Greenspan intervened directly with the principal regulator of Charles Keating's Lincoln Savings in an attempt to gain special exemptions from regulations for the institution. Risky investments ultimately brought Lincoln Savings down, sent Keating to jail, and cost the taxpayers $2.5 billion. Greenspan became chair of the Federal Reserve.

Greenspan's antiregulation philosophy continues to crop up at the Federal Reserve. Not only has the General Accounting Office raised questions about the efficacy of the Federal Reserve's regulation of bank holding companies, but Greenspan has erected roadblocks to the collection of data important to consumer protection and fair lending as well.

In 1996 Greenspan was urged to help in the enforcement of fair lending laws by collecting data on the race and gender of applicants for small business and consumer loans. Despite pleas from the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, Greenspan and his fellow governors blocked the proposal.

This year Greenspan decided to end the collection of nationwide data on bank fees. The survey, which was authorized as part of the financial reforms adopted in 1989, has proven an excellent tool that consumer groups have used to highlight and battle the excessive fees that banks impose on consumers.

Similarly, the Federal Reserve is dropping its "Functional Cost Analysis" study, which has provided important data on how much it costs banks to provide services. This has been a great tool for measuring the validity of bank charges. Credit unions, particularly, have made good use of this data to dramatize fee and interest rate gouging by banks.

But if we believe the words of Greenspan during his Ayn Rand period, he probably doesn't see any need for such data, much less regulation.

And if anyone complains about the loss of such consumer and fair-lending information, Greenspan could send them this excerpt from his writings with Ayn Rand: "Government regulation is not an alternative means of protecting the consumer. It does not build quality into goods, or accuracy into information. Its sole contribution is to substitute force and fear for incentive as the 'protector' of the consumer. The euphemisms of government press releases to the contrary notwithstanding, the basis of regulation is armed force. At the bottom of the endless pile of paper work which characterizes all regulation lies a gun."

And this is the Alan Greenspan who Congress believes should protect the public interest in the regulation of the new financial conglomerates?

81 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good post.

Anonymous said...

The "Takeover" actually occurred in 1913 when the Fony Reserve System was set up. Must read: "The Creature From Jekyll Island."

Anonymous said...

I couldn't bear watching the whole interview. She starts out OK - 'let's try to base things on a rational worldview' - then takes this to a ridiculous extreme - 'all altruism is bad all the time'. My old man would have called her an "intellectual panty waste".
But that's the point - it boggles the mind that such simplistic thinking led to Greenspan's abandonment of market regulation and the collapse we are now facing. There is an interesting lesson here about the cost of lobsided thinking, bad novels, and mass delusion.

Anonymous said...

And your overdue mortgage is not causing the crisis (hint: it's lack of regulation of the shadow banking system):

http://www.villagevoice.com/content/printVersion/850296

Check out the cover illustration: shades of Andrew Hac!

Anonymous said...

Ron Paul would beg to differ.

Anonymous said...

So Greenspan realized his opportunity among the 'Looters and Moochers'.

Anonymous said...

Oh God.

From under rocks will now crawl Ayn Rand followers to tell us how Atlas Shrugged was the world's greatest novel, and how Rand was the world's greatest theorist.

Here it comes, boys and girls, an endless supply of BS to support the notion that when everyone acts as a self-involved, smug, self-centered assh*le, the world will be better off.

The American Founding Fathers recognized the importance of community, sacrifice, and mutual support. Thus, when they declared independence from England, our Founding Fathers did not turn to each other and say,"Okay, now it's everyone for himself." Instead, they mutually pledged to each other their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

Now, you repeat such talk on Rushbo or Hannity, and you'd be accused of commie talk....

Anonymous said...

Atlas Shrugged...Rand was dead on with her theory that production via new ideas, with the freedom to compete in the market unregulated (in terms of quantities and prices) with the end consumer deciding what to buy and how much to pay for it, is the only way to save a nation that has been over-regulated to the point of self-destruction. Nations that no longer produce and only consume FAIL. VERY pro supply and demand capitalistic tone...if she was still alive I doubt she'd be pleased with how Greenspan turned out.

It's a great read...long, but worth it. Of course this is my personal interpretion of her fictional work.

Very interesting Keith...I had no idea that Greenspan had a Rand connection. He should be ashamed of himself...for a MULTITIUDE of things.

Anonymous said...

Ralph Nader for President!

Oh, wait...that didn't work.

Anonymous said...

Keefer,

Do you suffer from schizophrenia?

Every morning you wake up and blame someone else for the natural greed of the sheeple.

I’m really getting dizzy.

Make up your mind already.

Who’s fault is it that a typical low self esteem individual goes to a bank to borrow money to buy happiness?

2 seconds ago it was - the Flippers
and 3 seconds ago -it was the realtors
4 seconds ago it was – the republicans

once again; the FBer thought if only he/she can have a nice house life would be content, went to the bank, lied about their real net worth, got a loan. 6 months later the bills are coming due and it’s..

Ayn Rands fault???

WTF?

I mean really.....

Do you really think that had Ayn Rand and funny looking Greenspan never been born that young competitive people would not take on financial risk to impress their peers?


How do you explain why places like Moscow and Dubai which have ‘authoritative regulation and over site’ had an even larger irrational housing bubble then the US by far?


Dude, you are loosing it!

Anonymous said...

It is said that at Ms. Rand's funeral, which Alan Greenspan attended, a six-foot floral arrangement in the shape of a dollar sign was placed near her casket.

Anonymous said...

Took it over from whom, or what? The "American financial system" as it was conceived by this country's founders, was a system based on individuals and institutions suffering the consequences of their foolish actions, including banks. I can assure you, that this country was not founded on the socialist principles now being espoused by the politicians in DC. So, Keith, if you are arguing in this post to a return to the founding principles of this country: self reliance, self responsibility, thrift reasonable regulation, and common sense, by all means, I'm with you. But if you mean to imply in your post that this country was some sort of socialist utopia before all of these bad free marketers took over, then you are obviously ignorant to the founding principles of this country, and should pick up a history book before you make your next post.

Anonymous said...

Took it over from whom, or what? The "American financial system" as it was conceived by this country's founders, was a system based on individuals and institutions suffering the consequences of their foolish actions, including banks. I can assure you, that this country was not founded on the socialist principles now being espoused by the politicians in DC. So, Keith, if you are arguing in this post to a return to the founding principles of this country: self reliance, self responsibility, thrift reasonable regulation, and common sense, by all means, I'm with you. But if you mean to imply in your post that this country was some sort of socialist utopia before all of these bad free marketers took over, then you are obviously ignorant to the founding principles of this country, and should pick up a history book before you make your next post.

Anonymous said...

>The Obama administration is hammering out a program to subsidize mortgages in a new front to fight the credit crisis, sources familiar with the plan told Reuters on Thursday, boosting financial markets.

Anonymous said...

Excellent post....and yet people still believe the nonsense of that freakshow, Ayn Rand. What utter nonsense she spouted. Objective reality my ass. You might as well base an economy on the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Anon is right as well, the takeover started in Jekyll Island.

Anonymous said...

Anyone want to buy any bac or citi stock.They are on sale right now.

Did you guys see paula on idol this week.I was hard for two hours from my little blue pills.

Buy the dips.

Anonymous said...

did anyone watch CNBC's "House of Cards" last night? well, Greenspan was interviewed on it and of course he defended himself against his critics. The one thing that struck me was whe he stated that he could not have stopped this bubble because, and I'm paraphrasing here, you can't stop what is essentially human nature and behavior. I couldn't help but think of his following of Ayn Rand when I heard him say that. He wouldn't have done anything b/c according to Rand and to him, it would never be effective in combatting the inclinations of human beings to create bubbles and to follow bubbles. Am i correct in this understanding of his stance

Thanks for the post. I might endevour to read 'Fountainhead' and 'Atlas Shrugged' just for my edification.

Anonymous said...

It's to bad, as the video clip was ending that she agreed with Wallace that there aren't many people worthy of her ideal.

And I would suppose that if we weren't driven by competition to succeed in this capitalist society, where the rewards are materialistic, that her concepts would make sense, but by it's nature, we have to be ammoral to a certain extent for survival, much less to succeed in the standard thats believed to be "best".

If we wanted to be worthy of love, instead of worthy of McMansion, then, yes, it would be a whole nother game.

Quite fredly, I think the notion of loving is becomming passe, especially in younger people, the 35's and below, just from knowing a few of them, women are the worst, they also embrace atheism quite a lot too, strange, but understandable.

Such is the modern world and those whom are convinced the self is the only reality.

Anonymous said...

The supposed "fake" Protocols of the Elders tells the whole story.

Anonymous said...

For Justice, we must go to Don Corleone...

An idea whose time has come.

Anonymous said...

She sounds like you Keith, religion is for idiots right?

Anonymous said...

I thought Greenspan's admission in front of Congress that his economic philosophy was wrong was one of the most remarkable things I have seen in my life. The MSM was too stupid to realize it was a big deal.

The other intersting thing that came out of Greenspan's mouth was back aroung circa 2000 when he questioned what the Government was going to do with its remarkable budget surpluses and noted that unless something was done the government would end up owning all the mortages in the US. I guess that part is about to come true but not the way he saw it then. Or did it?

DP


PS ... I would like to see Ralph Nader and Ayn Rand on celebrity death match. That would be funny.

Anonymous said...

Hey Keith I noticed you didn't post my comment. I see your on board with the fainess doctrine, tool.

Anonymous said...

Greenspan is only a very small part of the problem. The biggest problem is the creation of the Federal Reserve system and fractional reserve lending.

Anonymous said...

I wish I had read this before I saw CNBC's House of Cards expose of the housing crash. Brian Faber threw Greenspan a few puff balls and fawned when Greenspan said there was nothing the Fed could have done because you can't regulate greed and to think otherwise is an "illusion." Same Greenspan of 40 years ago. Incredible.

Anyone else see that program?

Anonymous said...

Geithner is in over his head (but then again, so is his boss). this is a guy that couldn't properly pay his taxes and I believe him that it was an honest mistake. But only an idiot would make a mistake like that.

I think he is proving himself to be that idiot.

Anonymous said...

keith,

this piece by nadar doesn't really say anything. the examples he gives of greenspan not regulating bank fees, race/gender in lending decisions, removing glass-steagall etc. really aren't germaine to the mortgage crisis, the fraud that took place, and the rise of the non-bank financial institutions of which only congress could authorize regulation. even if glass-steagall were in effect, it would not have prevented commercial banks from making bad loans, which is the crux of the problem. also, i think nadar and you just don't understand what greenspan wrote along with ayn rand with respect to a gun being the basis for govt. regulation. sorry, man.

Anonymous said...

Funny how Keith always travels during AMERICAN holidays. I didn't know that it was president's day in England, too. Sure, buddy...whatever.

Anonymous said...

Yo, Keef..

This shit is too deep for a simpleton like myself.
But something here smells very fishy, in that you’re going thru extraordinary length to leap to a long winded conspiracy theory.

You’re basically saying we’re all dumb asses… and I don’t buy it.

Cause if we are; how do we know we’re not being conned by the underground Nader society?

Anonymous said...

We’re definitely in the early stages of a Ralph Nader bubble.

When this bubble pops it will sound like a thunderous whoopee cushion sat on by the Pope.

Anonymous said...

One of your best posts, Keith. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

hey Keith,you're gonna love this. all the people we love to hate have made it into time magazine's top 25 people to blame for the financial crisis.

http://tinyurl.com/3yjdwg

enjoy!

Anonymous said...

Anyone read Bad Money? I guess the title is a take on "Mad Money" by Jim Cramer.

Here's some great points from Bad Money:

- Our private and public debts equal 300%+ of our GDP. In 1929 it was 200%.

- Financials make up 20% of GDP, manufacturing 12%.

- During a financial crisis the government may step in to buy equities to prevent the stock markets from having a down day. This often happens late in the trading day, like yesterday.

So 20% of our economy is based on moving money around. And our debt to income ratio is worse than the great depression. And the government is propping up the stock market.

Mad Depression

Anonymous said...

I was so blown away when I read that he was a follower of Ayn Rand. I was young when I first heard of her, so I read The Fountainhead, and there is something said by I believe the
architect character near the last part of the novel, and it seemed so cold and heartless, I thought, there's something wrong with this writer's thinking. That's all.

I read up a little more on her, but I knew the character was speaking for the writer, and it went against my natural grain.

And to think the thinking behind decisions for our whole f'n economic system in recent decades had roots in that..in the cold war years all any one had to do to gain prominence and have a living was say something that seemed strongly anti-communist or anti-totalitarian and they were gold. That's how I saw her. Fit in perfectly with the Reagan, trickle-down, everything for business years, which I also had a visceral, bs, reaction to..

I had a grandfather, a small little man, who was tarred and feathered in N Dakota during the Depression for trying to organize farmers against the very banks who were taking their land from them. Once I wanted to win a contest for a $100, and he didn't have the dime I needed for a stash of postcards for entries.What he did give me was invaluable.He told me NEVER to be willing to do anything to people just for money. I have to say, I think that advice took. I asked myself that day, what could I do with a dime that would do good for people, and I realized a dime would buy a package of seeds which would feed people, or a pack of flowers which would add beauty to their lives. I've felt at odds with my culture ever since those years, but I think we are entering the time when the lessons of my grandfather and other grandparents will serve me well.

I don't think selfishness serves humanity well; that is not the same as realistic meeting of one's own needs. I think a feedback loop from all the rest of existence is needed. IE How's the rest of 'everything' doing.

grandma pkk

Anonymous said...

I've wondered the same thing myself but the only logical fallacy is that Alan Greenspan was not the sole arbiter of what the Federal Reserve did. He might be the Chairman but are we supposed to believe that he had sole authority over decisions made by the Fed? And look at Bernanke, he's a hardcore Keynesian economics professor that has followed the same Greenspan doctrine.

-Gonzo

Anonymous said...

Every couple of days you remind me once again why this is one of my favorite blogs. Good work, Keith. It's a shame the comments devolve into such nonsense so quickly...

Anonymous said...

Attention Sashers!
Attention!

Major announcement…

Anyone seeking to blame someone else for their own dumb and stupid financial choices will be receiving a bailout in the form of a stimulus.

No matter how much you knew or lied when applying for a loan on that $500K crap box, there is always a way to find someone else responsible.

Dig deep, do your research, their must be somebody out there responsible for your stuff.

‘Yes we can’

If you don’t buy that the Realtor, or your lender or the goberment or the appraiser, or illegal, or Greenspan, or Paulson, or Bush, or China, or 100 year old book authors, or Congress, or the credit card company, or the Republicans, or the mighty underground ‘money changers’ wooo or the MSM or Gee there's gotto be somebody else responsible.

You have not done your home work.

‘Yes we can’

look; there is no way in the world, me and you on our own, had enough appetite to want what our neighbors appeared to have, someone else implanted this longing for a nice home, and forced us to borrow money against our will.

‘Yes we can’

I am so terribly naĂŻve and am not able to see ‘the big picture’ of how some powerful intergalactic organization whose members live forever in underground glass castles have forced me spend more each month then I earn.

Someone up there, way way up there is controlling my checkbook and balance sheet.

‘Yes we can’

Stimuli me with an exciting scape goat, cause my finances are not my responsibility.

A couple of bucks for free in my mail box would be nice too.

Anonymous said...

In space he traced the sign of the dollar.

Anonymous said...

This is the real story, too:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwV5amOxcv8

Oops, I forgot that this is the new America, in which logic and common sense are rare commodities. The plan of dumbing the US down is alive and well.

Anonymous said...

This mess hasnt occured because of lack of regulation. It is here because of government meddling. If the government stayed out of business, we wouldnt have the debt that is out there. Now the same group/people that created this disaster are trying to fix it with more debt and more meddling. What do you think will be the outcome?

Mitesh Damania said...

Who's Ayn Rand and why should i care?

Mitesh Damania said...

Anyone looking for foreclosure investment properties in the OC?

Anonymous said...

Ayn Rand is just another pseudo-intellectual jew whose basic tenet is that somehow things will work out if everyone is purely out for their own self interest.

Based on this, other pseudo-intellectual jews like Greenspan worked hard to ensure that corporations were not hindered in anyway and that somehow, things would work out best for society following if the financial system were completely unhindered and "self-regulating".

Welcome to 2009 - financial collapse due to corporations and the lapdogs in Washington/FED doing exactly what Ayn Rand postulated. Except ironically, when faced with their own failure due to...themselves...all of a sudden it was "we are all in this together". Proving once and for all that Rand/Greenspan philosophy was actually a cancer on society and total BS.

I hope history puts this windbag (and her lapdog) in her place.

Anonymous said...

yuck, just think about that old coke whore having orgies with alan greenspan ( he says he was never at them ) but gross. you can sense the vileness seeping out of her. like Freud she mistook her own coke delusions, her speeedy tweaken as insight into the nature of man. No Ayn, Coke makes you perverted in every aspect. Dirts up the soul. Ask anyone who went through a phase doing that crap. That next morning you don't feel you can scrub yourself clean in the hotest shower. And its this twisted "selfish" outlook that has infected America's soul. Wh are all the idols of the right wing drugies?

Anonymous said...

The entire congress is corrupt!

http://www.examiner.com/x-2888-World-News-Examiner~y2009m2d13-K-Street-lobbyists-saw-economic-bill-before-lawmakers

Anonymous said...

AAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! NY Times falls below 4.0 today. What's gonna happen after your left wing propaganda flagship sinks. I can't wait to find out.

Anonymous said...

His ultimate goal was not only to impoverish and transform America into a third world nation but also to destroy the dollar and reestablish a global gold standard.

With the only option of printing and spending to attempt repairing the damage he's done, it is likely his gold standard will be achieved sooner rather than later.

Anonymous said...

If you are too busy working for a living and do not have the time to gaze up at the clouds and concoct your own complex conspiracy theories.

Come to Sasher-land where we connect the dots for you;
or create new dots if necessary;
custom tailored for a large variety of imaginations.

Disclosure:
I am not the one writing this here.
I’m only a puppet for the masters pulling my strings.

I’m a front man for the global Sasher foundation.

* we are a ‘for profit- don’t wanna pay tax’ organization.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting this Keith, I can't believe more folks haven't seized on Greenspan's ideology.

Rand had some great arguments. However, although Rand seemed to be quite cynical about government, her beliefs also seemed to reflect an almost naive belief that people would do the right thing (business wise)because it was obviously the best thing to do for yourself. Yes, to Rand doing the right thing to others was the best way to look out for yourself!
So, in theory she was correct, and I guess you could even say that the bust has only helped to prove her right: look where not doing right by others has gotten our business community. Unfortunately, the people who were given the keys to the economy didn't get her message when they ruined the lives of their own customers.

Anonymous said...

I got a big kick out of the paper-pushing fooks on Wall Street who all thought they were John Galt. They were nothing but a bunch of petty thieves, err, maybe not so petty.

Anton Chiguhr

Paul E. Math said...

"It's the rewards system, stupid."

Or, to be more specific, it's the swiftness and directness of the reward system in response to behaviours.

Greenspan rightly believed that the financial system had a rewards system in place that, if left alone, would reward responsible behaviour and punish irresponsible behaviour. This is true.

The problem is that Greenspan assumed the reward system would respond swiftly to actions such that irresponsible actors, actions, policies and programs would be weeded out immediately.

The system is actually right now going through this weeding out process but it is unfortunately after significant delay that Greenspan himself imposed.

The system is attempting to respond to bad behaviour only after bad practices have become widespread and many bad actors have enriched themselves and snuck away.

Unfortunately, the fed and our government are doing everything in their power to avoid that natural correction process that would bring us back to a stable footing.

It is our government itself that is behaving irresponsibly now, attempting to avoid an adjustment that is absolutely necessary.

Ultimately that adjustment will come and the process will be that much more painful for having been delayed.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Keith, you should sue CNBC and David Faber for their program...'House of Cards'. You've been saying that for 4 years!

Anton Chiguhr

Anonymous said...

Three more banks made it on the FDIC Failed Bank List.

That is a total of twelve banks so far this year.

http://www.fdic.gov
/bank/individual/failed
/banklist.html


Corn Belt Bank and Trust Company, Pittsfield, IL

Riverside Bank of the Gulf Coast, Cape Coral, FL

Sherman County Bank, Loup City, NE

Anonymous said...

Wow, another one just made the FDIC failed bank list.

That 13 banks so far this year.

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/
individual/failed/banklist.html

Pinnacle Bank of Oregon, Beaverton, OR

Anonymous said...

VIDEO: 'NOT ONE MEMBER HAS READ THIS BILL' (stimulus package)

___________
Because they are all TOO FUCKING STUPID,LAZY, and just don't really give a shit. Hell, I could read the damn thing even if it's 900+ pages. These dip-shits wouldn't understand it even if Spielburg made a movie out of it.

(Sorry to get so mad, but I can't sleep anymore.)

Anonymous said...

Sooner or later your liberal union collectivism will get you laid off; it's inevitable:

Faced with a multimillion-dollar budget shortfall, Mayor Scott W. Lang asked city employee unions to accept a 10 percent pay cut or suffer layoffs. The unions refused. Now Lang is letting go a total of 200 workers, including police and firefighters.

Union officials said the layoffs of public safety personnel in New Bedford were the first of a wave that will spread across the state as local governments cope with a decline in tax revenue due to the bleak economy.


http://tinyurl.com/d52np8

Soon to spread all over the world.

Anonymous said...

Just the Libertarian New World Order at work here folks...

....Nothing to see.....

Just keep on moving....

Anonymous said...

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Creepy!


Really Creepy!




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Anonymous said...

"Greenspan has argued that the self-interest of the corporations – the desire of corporations to protect their reputation – was all that was necessary for consumer protection."

And it is. The only problem is government constantly stepping in and preventing the wreckless from dying and prudent from reaping the rewards. Capitalism works fine if you let it, while regulation, as the SEC has so aptly shown, doesn't.

Anonymous said...

As many as 1,000 U.S. banks may fail in the next three to five years from mounting losses on commercial real-estate loans, RBC Capital Markets analysts have said, almost double the one- year tally at the height of the saving-and-loan collapse.

Most of the failures will probably occur at banks with less than $2 billion in assets.

http://www.bloomberg.com
/apps/news?pid=20601087&
sid=aIWdoV2ckATQ&refer=home

Anonymous said...

Is this Mrs. Dracula??

Anonymous said...

"...yuck, just think about that old coke whore having orgies with alan greenspan..."

Larry Kudlow?

Anonymous said...

The Ayn Rand haters on this site feel the way they do because she repudiated the socialist/communist system from which she escaped -- Russia and Soviet Union -- and to which they would have freedom loving Americans bow down to. No wonder there is such invective against her from the Lefties here.

Rand has some interesting ideas that are relevant today and probably for all time, but she probably went to extremes in her thinking. My understanding is that she was not a happy person and that may be because of her own rigid orthodoxy. The fact is if you only think about your own self-interests then you will probably be unhappy. Unfortunately, her belief system was formed by the evils of collectivism and, apparently, it pushed her to the other extreme.

Atlas Shrugged is the greatest work of fiction of all time, by the way. I stopped reading fiction after reading this book in my 20's because nothing else could compare to it. A must read, particularly for the Commie Sashers.

Anonymous said...

I don't get it, Keith. Greenspan did the exact opposite of what Ayn had defended, and you blame her?

She was always opposed to gov intervention in markets, meaning no monetary policy. That's exactly what Greenspan did by reducing and maintaining rates too low for a long time. So don't blame Ayn.

As a matter of fact, if we followed Ayn's ideas, there wouldn't exist a FED.

Anonymous said...

"What is the rationality of those who expect to trick people into freedom, cheat them into justice, fool them into progress, con them into preserving their rights, and, while indoctrinating them with statism, put one over them and let them wake up in a perfect capitalist society one morning?" – Ayn Rand

Anonymous said...

Troughout evolution man succeeded by cooperation. That's the nature of man, as capitalism is the natural state of commerce in a human society. The natural state is the equilibrium and will produce the best results. Any deviation from the natural state will have a sub-optimal outcome. Of course there're many crack pot philosophers & economists out there that tend to deviate.

Brian Miller said...

It's easy to blame Alan Greenspan.

It's easy to blame George Bush.

It's easy to blame David Lereah.

It's easy to blame Bill Clinton.

It's easy to blame Ayn Rand, a few decades after she died.

It's easy to blame government.

It's easy to blame the banks.

It's easy to blame the Federal Reserve.

Did any of those institutions force you to buy a clearly overpriced house?

Did they hold a gun to your head as you ran up massive credit card debts for vacations and consumption?

Did they command you to either buy a car you couldn't afford or rot in prison?

Did they hold you at knifepoint and instruct you to invest your life savings in 401-Ks that were obviously stupid?

Nope.

Keith, you and Nader and the Republicrats and Demopublicans are becoming part of the problem.

The problem wasn't "greed" or "lack of regulations" or any of that other stuff. It wasn't that there was too much easy money -- had Greenspan clamped down on the money supply, Nader would instead be writing that the greedy Randroid Greenspan destroyed affordable mortgages.

No, the blame lies with everyone who decided to abandon common sense in spending, borrowing, and consumption. The blame lies with everyday Americans and Europeans and Japanese and Canadians and Thais and Belizeans and everyone else who wanted "bling" and "luxury," all bought with OPM.

Until people stop fostering this myth that there's someone else to blame for their individual decisions to sign suicide mortgage contracts and borrow way beyond their means for consumption, the recession will persist.

You remember what a party killer we were when we told our friends that maybe they couldn't afford that $1 million California home with a household income of $120K, and that maybe that $80K wedding in Barbados paid for with borrowed money was a bit too much? Remember when we were shouted down as idiots for noting that HELOCs weren't "taking money out of the house" but rather, adding debt?

All the people screaming, crying and seeking to blame others were playing in this party. They ignored the warning signs. They partied, borrowed and spent themselves into debt that they'd never escape from. Friends and family warned them, and became pariahs for suggesting they "didn't earn" that new BMW, that new vacation, that house full of imported Danish furniture.

Turning this situation around requires, first and foremost, recognition by the average Joe that HE was responsible and that nobody in government, industry or anywhere else should have the responsibility to save him from his OWN stupid decisions.

Until people make the decision to say "you know what, I f***ed up, and Alan Greenspan only gave me enough rope to hang myself -- but I made the noose and put it around my neck," this country is screwed.

Anonymous said...

You are putting your credibility on the line by assigning blaim for the current financial crisis to a long dead woman. Her philosophy says the government should not involve itself in the economy, in this case by government regulation. But weak government regulation cannot take 100% of the blaim for the financial crisis. Government Sponsored Enterprise (GSEs) deserve much more of the blaim than Ayn Rand / Alan Greenspan because the GSEs encouraged companies to underwrite risky mortgages, which the GSEs acquired later.

Anonymous said...

"Good post"
"One of your best posts"

How about utter drivel.

Greenspan, the Congress, and the Executive Branch used the Federal Reserve and the hundreds of other govt agencies and fiefdoms to totally manipulate and micromanage every aspect of the economic system of the USA.

Tell me again how this is anything other than TOTALLY DIAMETRICALLY opposed to every single point Rand tried to make in Atlas Shrugged.

You people shouldn't even be allowed to operate small kitchen appliances considering the total lack of thinking skills you possess.

kochevnik

Anonymous said...

Greenspan's argument about corporations self-regulating would be correct if:
1. corporations weren't disposable entities
2. the officers of the corporations were held personally liable

People are expected to act morally to amoral fictional entities that are designed to avoid all responsibility. It's ridiculous.

Branding is function of advertising expense. Make the corporation more valuable than the cost to build a brand, and you've got a psychopathic profit opportunity.

Anonymous said...

Ayn Rand said: To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the product of the best powers within you, and your pass-key to trade your effort for the efforts of the very best among men. It's the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is the loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money - and he has good reason to hate it, too. The lovers of money are willing to work for it. They know that they deserve it. Let me give you this rule of thumb: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.

Kangtong

Anonymous said...

Ayn Rand said: To the glory of mankind there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money - and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time man's mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being - the self-made man - the American industrialist.

Kangtong

Anonymous said...

I seriously believe Ayn or Alisa or whatever her real name was, should have baked cookies and knitted scarves and left the hard thinking to the menfolk.

Anonymous said...

"Atlas Shrugged is the greatest work of fiction of all time, by the way. I stopped reading fiction after reading this book in my 20's because nothing else could compare to it."

Oh boy, you said more about yourself than Atlas shrugged with that one. But i am somewhat suprised. I would have thought anyone that thinks AS is anything but crap writen by a crack pot hadn't read anything more sice age 12. Realy it is a very poorly written book aimed at the juvenile mind.

Anonymous said...

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Don't ya just bet she was a hoot at a cocktail party


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Anonymous said...

She smelled of stale cigarettes and gun powder

Chris said...

LMFAO!

This whole article is ridiculous

Thats like saying Ron Paul is to blaime for the Bailouts, inflation, and housing bubble.

The reason we are in the mess we are in is because of people demanding that low income, low eduction, minorities and illegals get a right to own a home and force banks to loan them money.

Regulations got us into this mess, not lack of regulations.

Anonymous said...

Greenspan is a key actor in the Bubble and bears obvious responsibility for the disaster. However he is a very difficult fellow to fully understand. He was an advocate of the gold standard in the 60's and as a result correctly predicted what central banking would do to the economy, beginning of course with the 60's-70's inflation and near-collapse of the dollar. As he moved into the inner circle of government and the Fed, he proceeded to advocate and do the exact opposite of what he had been preaching: credit expansion by artificially low interest rates. So he certainly did NOT carry out the principles he and AR advocated. When asked, he actually disavowed the gold standard.

Now, we can make this about Greenspan, which leads us nowhere in understanding where we stand today, or we can correctly identify the problem: IT'S THE FED! IT'S CENTRAL BANKING! IT'S CREDIT OUT OF THIN AIR! Free banking does not lead to bubbles and busts, debasement of the currency and credit expansion by the Lender of Last Resort does. The Fed is the opposite of free banking, and Mozillo & company could not exist in a non-inflationary environment.

If Volcker or Greenspan or Bernanke or Man in the Moon is in charge of the Fed, it doesn't matter. The Fed is designed to inflate bubbles through massive credit expansion. It has done this since 1913 and will continue to do it until it is abolished and/or the entire country disintegrates. The biggest bubbles burst in 1920, 1929, 1971, 1987, 2000 and 2006. The largest one of all is being attempted by Obama/Bernanke right now and will probably mean the end of the American empire.

If your answer to Fed control of the money supply and the abuses that result from it is regulation of the abusers, what you will get is more of the same. You will not have made a dent in the problem, you will have simply rolled the snowball further along toward total political control of everything. Corruption stems from control and becomes institutionalized when control is complete.

Read lots more about these principles at
http://www.lewrockwell.com/
http://www.mises.org/

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Anonymous said...

Blame Ayn Rand.... HAHAHA!

Wonder what Ayn would think about a central bank setting intrest rates in the first place. Government caused these problems they are trying to fix now. If they would have took Ayn's advice and not had a central bank in the first place and Fannie and Freddie and other "quasi-government" everything would have been fine.

Ayn will live on forever in her writing.

Anonymous said...

The Ayn Rand Novels were interesting to say the least . I think I read the bulk of them at about 15 years of age . Its like anything ,you take what is good out of it and you trash the rest .


I never thought that Rand understood the BEE HIVE aspect of mankind ,that might be as powerful a force as the selfish motive side of humans .

But ,I really think that Rand was marketing the concept of pure capitalism ,which is impossible without regulations.

Freud would talk about the great battle between the ID and the Super-ego . The selfish aspect of humans has been around since the dawn of man ,so just because Rand embraced it as a positive aspect ,doesn't mean that there isn't some truth to that .

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