We're about to go on a historic ride.
I get the sense nobody knows where this thing is going to go next.
But they feel something is coming.
Something big.
2008 was a once-in-a-lifetime jolt. The tremors will be felt for years, if not for the rest of time.
The world is not going back to normal after the magnitude of what they have done.
And perhaps that is a good thing.
Get your predictions in now. And then remember to pull this thread up eight years from now.
You might be surprised.
Things to think about
* Who'll be president-elect?
* What cool things will have been invented?
* US deficit and debt?
* Dow?
* Gold price?
* Fate of the banks?
* Amero?
* Wars?
* What's on the Internet tonight?
* Entitlements rationalized?
* Will Obama be there?
* Terrorist strikes?
* Price of oil?
* Scientific discoveries?
* Gay marriage?
* Will there be newspapers?
* What will you be doing?
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NEW WORLD ORDER
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Pandemonium, since earth's orbit would have shifted on Dec 21, 2012.
Get a bunker in the mountain with plenty of food and water. Don't be stupid.
There's one exciting thing that we might see by 2017:
Potential Cure for Cancer?
You can bet there will be a revolution in biotechnology, genetic manipulation and gene therapy with all of the research going on with RNA interference etc...
Provided we don't engineer some "I Am Legend" style armageddon virus in the process it's all very promising.
As for politics, Obama doesn't mean a damn thing. He'll placate the masses for a few years while the New World Order agenda rolls forward. Where will it lead? It's impossible to predict the details but guaranteed we will see a continued erosion of America, the Constitution, US sovereignty and further expansion overseas and the relentless pursuit of global consolidation by the global elite.
If we're lucky we'll keep the globalists from regulating the internet like they've regulated and monopolized all other forms of media and perhaps we'll have a renaissance in awareness of the true structure of society and politics on a global scale. Who knows maybe we'll see a cultural revolution that won't direct us towards the failed ideas of socialism and instead have a revolutionary revival of traditional American ideals of liberty and free markets.
Here's mine.
And yes, 8-year-out predictions are quite hard. But here you go...
* Who'll be president-elect?
Jindal will face Ford in the election. If the GOP goes away from the religious whackos, then it's Jindal. If they stay on the Sarah Palin path, then it's Ford
* What cool things will have been invented?
All your communications will come via the internet - phone, TV, news, everything. There will no longer be much tv via satellite or airwaves. And only a fool would have a phone line.
* US deficit and debt?
$100 trillion plus (up from $52 trillion today) in debt and promises. $1 trillion deficits.
* Dow?
30,000 (mainly because of decline of dollar)
* Gold price?
5000
* Fate of the banks?
Nationalized around the world or failed, and then relaunched eventually as shareholder held but with strict regulations
* Amero?
Yes - a north american union, with canada and mexico pegging to the us dollar
* Wars?
No. Just little skirmishes.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Everything. But too much reality TV still
* Entitlements rationalized?
Yes. But not until 2020 and after.
* Will Obama be there?
Yes. And the most popular and successful president of your lifetime.
* Terrorist strikes?
Dirty bomb in London. Shopping mall gun rampages. Bio scare in US (but unsuccessful)
* Price of oil?
$200
* Scientific discoveries?
Stem Cells go nuts.
* Gay marriage?
No - gay civil unions, marriages conducted by churches
* Will there be newspapers?
Nationals only. Locals go internet-only
* What will you be doing?
That's a secret.
I voted for Obama in the general election because I had no other choice. (only McCain and Bam Bam were on the ballot.) I won't be watching the inauguration. In eight years things will be worse than ever. Anything my gubbermint asks me to do I will do the opposite, because I am now convinced that they hate me and are trying to harm me. I am disgusted with politics and will likely never vote again.
Keefer, the only way you are right is if its 'deiferent this time'
It never is!
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Keith are you on drugs?
A bill for $150m, and 42000 armed guards for the coronation of king george (chicken george that is) and he hasn't even been sworn in yet!! Don't bode well for the future, and as for all this Lincoln train ride and new declaration of independence malarky, when lincoln made the trip, the civil war started shortly after. We all know the fate of Lincoln...
I predict
Terribly bloody wars all across Europe, the US will do about as much a Europe has done to help us when we needed help, a big nothing.
By 2012 most of the European continents infrastructure lay in ruins, population down to a fraction of what it is today.
By 2020 Europe is a forgotten nightmare.
If anyone here thinks the terror supporting soccer rioters will take kindly to financial hardship, then you have not paid attention to Keefers ‘Housing Ponzi scheme bust riot’ predictions.
Keith,
Predicted
‘* Price of oil?
$200’
I guess you’re not betting on progress with renewable/alternative energies?
Eight years is just a few hours away in human time.
It's gonna take us much longer to fully get off of oil. By choice or not by choice.
Oil goes up as the dollar goes down, and India and China add hundreds of millions of new users. In addition to the rest of the world.
$200 is optimistic.
Obama will give his farewell address on January 18, 2013.
2017 = Idiocracy
How exactly is Obama going to make it on the state ballots a second time, without demonstrating he is qualified? There will be 50 lawsuits in 50 states to force each Secretary of State to follow the law next time.
Hussein is a one termer, or less if he offends his masters.
Where we gonna be in 2017? Just getting over this problem:
http://www.designs.valueinvestorinsight.com/bonus/pdf/T2_Housing_Analysis.pdf
We're still in a depression, because the deficit spending ran up the money supply to such a degree that hyperinflation danger forced the Fed to raise interest rates. 1 in 8 Americans works for the government, which is now so large that there is no discernible difference between the government's yearly outlay and the national GNP. The earth's global temperature remains largely unchanged and the IPCC predictions from 2006 have all been wrong. The socialization of the health care industry has indeed lower the average cost of health care, but then again, the surgeon performing your heart surgery graduated from an Online Correspondent's College.
Finally, Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, has killed as many innocent civilians overseas as George W. Bush.
Keith,
So you don’t think the global contracting economy will reduce demand for oil and continue forcing prices lower?
I was a huge Obama supporter and did what I could to get him elected. But the last month I feel he is just another one of them....the superior politicians who toy with us little people.
He is so caught up in this coronation. It is like he is a character in a blockbuster movie. He should have had the most low key inauguration in history, not the grandest.
Unfortunately both parties are long ago bought and paid for. Obama is just the latest scam artist/celebrity politician. He is going to gamble with our kids and grandkids futures....if it fails his family will still end up super wealthy.
If it fails he and his people, just like the Bushes, will be long gone to Dubai.
Clinton, Bush, Obama....they all end up richer, their families set for life, while we end up poorer.
Saw this crap coming years ago...left for New Zealand in late 2007. Here's what I see coming down the track...
January 2009: President Obama is sworn in and announces extraordinary measures to stop the crisis. First of all, he negates all derivitave contracts, and it is illegal to enter into such contracts in the future. Secondly, he halts the payment of funds overseas. "We need to keep our funds at home during this emergency", Obama explains. Ports fall silent as the importation of goods from China stops. Basic consumer goods are scarce and expensive. News reports focus on "the restarting of American industry". The US Dollar sells off below 60 on the USD Index.
Spring 2009: The Federal Government suspends Medicare and Medicade payments to states, which greatly frees up cash flow in D.C. States implement a triage form of medicare, and almost all but the most rudimentary treatments become unvailable to those who cannot pay cash up front. Democrats rage against President Obama, and threaten to eject him from the Democratic Party.
Summer 2009: “Official” unemployment numbers are now at 13% (realistically, it is 25-30%). US soldiers are used to put down riots in inner city areas. Production of consumer goods domestically begins to catch up with demand since the halt in foreign payments to China left America's ports empty and rusting. The Federal Government announces that there will be no Social Security payments in October, 2009 to help conserve cash, and urges the elderly to save ahead for the missed month. A schedule, showing every fourth month to be a "Social Security Holiday" is circulated. President Obama's approval rating plunges even further. Half of all regional banks have failed. The Federal Government continues to fund the FDIC and insured accounts are still guaranteed.
Fall 2009: With credit still frozen, housing prices are down 50% compared to one year earlier in the Fall 2008. Standard size homes in the Midwest/Southeast are selling for $40,000 cash and $130,000 cash in waterfront areas of California/Florida. California announces it will default on its budget and halts all expenditures except for police and army national guard. Massive wildfires are not fought due to lack of money, and ten billion dollars of damage occurs in the great Inland Empire Fire. General Motors and Ford, both of which are hedge funds masquerading as automobile manufacturers for years, end production of cars and shutdown remaining factories. Boeing declares bankruptcy. General Electric's manufacturing businesses are purchased for $1.9 billion by Warren Buffet when the financial arm of GE collapses. Unemployment at 35-40% and Gold bullion surges above $4,000 per oz. as the US Dollar cascades downward to 30 on the USD Index, closely followed by a EuroDollar selloff. The Singapore/ Aussie/NZ Dollar(s), Swiss Franc, Norwegian Krone and other defensive currencies rise exponentially in value near-term, but only as a reactionary move due to the consequent selloff in the US Dollar and not due to any fundamental secure backing of those respective currencies.
Winter 2010 Leading into 2012: Steady very-high unemployment, increased civil violence and hunger, and limited credit availablity. President Obama loses the election to Reed/Dobson running on the newly-formed Independant Christian Party. President Ralph Reed restores monthly Social Security Payments at 35% of previous levels, but fails to restore Medicare payments to the states. Mortality rates among the elderly reach third world levels. Gold bullion goes parabolic north of $10,000 per oz. with few sellers. An ad-hoc barter / underground economy takes root and is virtually the only method to conduct economic activity.
2011-2012: Presidential Decree Broadcast Worldwide (CNN,CSPAN,BBC,SKY)
“The Gold Dinar Coin currency introduced last year in the middle east (Gulf Cooperative Council) is a laundering house for terrorists…. Terrorists who have brung harm to Americans.… terrorists that are laundering illegal blood money from the death of American troops and citizens. Our focus, my fellow Americans, is to decapitate the enemy….the lifeblood of our enemy is their currency. To take out the terrorists, we must take out their currency. To protect against the terrorists, effective immediately, I’ve issued Presidential Executive Orders for the US military to confiscate all Gold Dinar Coin currency worldwide and the Dept. of Homeland Security to confiscate gold bullion within these United States. Any US citizen hoarding gold bullion/coins will be considered a terrorist and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as provided for in the Patriot Act, NSPD-51, and these executive orders and enforced via repeal of the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. All safety deposit boxes are sealed and can only be opened in the presence of an agent of the Dept. of Homeland Security.”
Immediately, gold bullion surges above USD $200,000 per oz. on world trading markets (traders determine that $51 Trillion in foreign held debt obligations divided by 260 million ounces gold supposedly held in US bullion vaults) as massive, national trade deficit / debt obligation reconciliation via Bank for International Settlements (BIS) demands, attempt to force entire physical gold bullion transfer / Special Drawing Rights (SDR) from the United States to China, Russia, Japan, and other countries holding United States debt instruments. News leaks that the (unaudited since 1955) US gold bullion vault reserves at Fort Knox, Kentucky and Federal Reserve Bank of New York are empty and the United States refuses to meet the SDR mandates issued in Basel, Switzerland, thereby defaulting on all sovereign debt obligations.
The US Dollar is sold off with wanton abandon across the globe and is refused as a medium of exchange. Americans can no longer trade with any form of currency, millions upon millions are bankrupted and the US government is overthrown in a violent, civil insurrection. 1000 guillotines are erected throughout the 3-mile long Washington DC mall and 20 million former investment/commercial bankers, stock traders, realtors, mortgage brokers, corporate lawyers, insurance agents and financial-related federal employees + the gang of 535 are rounded up by a newly-resurgent US militia movement of the 330 million citizens.
The guillotines operate 24/7 as the world watches in utter disbelief-- a replay of the 1789 French Revolution on steroids. Meanwhile, Zionists (British Monarchy, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Bushs/Clintons, Neocons) are pursued on a worldwide manhunt, focusing on hideaways in Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile and Argentina. With frightening speed, all other countries nationalize their gold mines to anchor their respective currencies in emergency action, to be able to trade in a new worldwide gold standard environment, as established by the Gold Dinar Coin, Russian Gold Rouble and Chinese Gold Yuan currencies.
Sensing the moment of primary weakness planned for decades, Russia and China launch a coordinated, preemptive nuclear attack – taking out, first, the entire satellite communication space infrastructure, rendering all US/UK Command and Control apparatus inoperable. Simultaneously, multi-reentry/multi-targeting hydrogen-bomb warheads begin to detonate over New York City, Washington DC, Los Angeles, London and 2000 other targets inside the continental United States/UK and Hawaii.
Once Obama OPENS THE GATES OF HELL on the Border, and makes illegals citizens, it will be too late. The nation will wallow in higher crime rates as the narco militants from South of the Border have overthrown the MEXICAN governmanet and have set up shop in California.
California drops to the lowest GDP of all states.
HEALTHcARE is no longer viable as disease and medical maladies stack up. Nursing is a thing of the past, Doctors have all fled to other countries.
We have been attacked by Islamofaciests on a regular basis and 4 US cities are wastelands, uninhabitable due to lingering radiation.
Janet, the Homeland Security Chief is so bad, she only lasts 28 months in office before she has to be replaced.
The billions upon billions of dollars that have been printed by Obama, are virtually worthless.
We are on the Brink of Nuclear War.
Yes, in 8 years, the people will be screaming, BRING BACK BUSH.
And OBAMA WILL MAKE BUSH LOOK LIKE A GENIUS.
The country will wallow in mediocrity for generations as Obama is remembered as the worst possible mistake we could have made in 2008.
Marxism didn't work in the USSR, and it won't work here either. 4 years of Obama will make that clear.
I will be dead.
* Who'll be president-elect? I honestly don't know.
* What cool things will have been invented? RFID chips. Digital money.
* US deficit and debt? Unpayable.
* Dow? 0
* Gold price? More than most can afford.
* Fate of the banks? Government owned.
* Amero? Probably.
* Wars? Yeah. War against freedom.
* What's on the Internet tonight? Internet? What internet?
* Price of oil? $300-400
* Gay marriage? Hopefully not.
* Will there be newspapers? No, we don't need them. We have telescreens.
* What will you be doing? If things get bad enough, living in the remote wilderness.
* Who'll be president-elect?
* Will Obama be there?
There isn't a president-elect, the new President, Generalissima Palin, has seized power in the "4,000 Mile Coup" with the support of General Track Palin and the Alaska National Guard (this is after BHO/Solis whips Palin/Pawlenty like a rented mule in 2012).
* What cool things will have been invented?
Granite countertops recycled into fancy, durable sidewalks.
* US deficit and debt?
* Dow?
* Gold price?
* Amero?
Low (we've defaulted), Low, Much Higher, Canada won't prop us up with their tar sand money--the Gulf Dinar becomes the world's defacto reserve currency
* Fate of the banks?
JPM & Wells are left standing, merge, own basically everything for a few months, are purchased by some rich teenager from Dubai.
* Wars?
Iraqi Civil War (Kurds vs. Turks vs. Shia vs. Sunni), Taiwan handed over quietly in exchange for Chinese $, for some reason The War On Christmas ends & The War On Drugs continues
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Internet ABC- Extreme Makeover: Bank Edition
Internet CBS- Survivor: Cleveland
Internet NBC- ER: The Animated Series
Internet FOX- Pirate Hunters: Somalia
Internet PBS- This Relatively New, but Astonishingly Poorly-made House
On Internet HBO-
The Diff'rent Strokes Movie
* Entitlements rationalized?
Still holding on (ALL the old people vote--what can you do?)
* Terrorist strikes?
Nope. After we vacate our overseas bases the violent radical movements lose interest and start targeting the wealthy gulf states.
* Price of oil?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
* Scientific discoveries?
Probably just more pills designed to make cubical work seem fulfilling or help old men do it.
* Gay marriage?
Nope, the Supreme Court drags its feet bigtime (with the full support of "liberals" not named Kucinich or Sanders). Palin squashes it for good.
* Will there be newspapers?
A few of the big dailys will hold on.
* What will you be doing?
Raising my kids, buying a modest house in the Bay Area on a professional's salary, still holding out for that Cubs pennant, reading WaterPANIC
Sincerely hoping for peace and the return of Jesus Christ (not real sure about the rapture stuff) as the only answer that will really solve all the problems we have in the world.
Maranatha!
America will look like any other Black city in America looks today, a slum, like Philadelphia, or Chicago. And, if Obama gets to disarm, then its a broke bananna repulbic. You could check out the second largest Mexican City in the world, Los Angeles, and that would also give you an idea. America is becoming to look like a third world nation of mongrels and lesser breeds, which is just in time to reflect the fact that it is bankrupt and broke. The greatest generation of European descent people who made America with its laws and culture are dying in the USA. The spoiled boomers have squandered that inheritance through financial mismanagement and sick social experiments (e.g., affirmative action, et al.) which they call progress. America will become like Latin America. America can not lead the world if it is broke and filled with third world citizens. Mark this: the world is laughing at America with a mulatto president. It does not repect you, but mocks you. Its decline its matched by its representative. America's mulatto savior; good luck, you'll need it.
Oh, yes. One more thing. A short-term prediction. Today - The here and now - January 19th, 2009 is a highly significant day, because public optimism from the left, however misplaced, is at an unprecedented level. The flood of spending that is about to ensue will take six to nine months to result in significant price inflation. When the price inflation takes hold, people will discover that wages lag behind by a significant period of time. It's all down hill from here - as poor people discover Obama is not going to pay their mortgages and rent.
Who'll be president-elect?
Andrew Cuomo
* What cool things will have been invented?
3DTV, already invented, will be the next big consumer trend
* US deficit and debt?
I can't count that high
* Dow?
About where we are now, after falling to below 6,000
* Gold price?
$3,000
* Fate of the banks?
Still in control of everything.
* Amero?
No.
* Wars?
The usual conflict in the middle east. Iraq will be back in the hands of some blood-thirsty warlord after the US has pulled out.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
"This Old Whore" - it's like This Old House where the hosts are a bunch of plastic surgeons who give an old prostitute a makeover and then let some young nerd do her. Everyone is happy.
* Entitlements rationalized?
Nope.
* Will Obama be there?
Nope.
* Terrorist strikes?
Yes.
* Price of oil?
$150
* Gay marriage?
Yes. And millions of gay divorces.
* Will there be newspapers?
Yes, but hotels will be the only ones that buy them so they have something to leave outside your hotel room door.
* What will you be doing?
Retired with my millions.
Predictions:
Obama left the political scene after his defeat by the Petraeus-Palin ticket in the 2012 election when the left wing of the Democratic Party deserted him for what was perceived as his "Republican Lite" policies and failure to investigate the crimes of the Bush Regime. Petraeus was elected on a promise to get tough on the drug-fuelled anarchy spilling across from the Mexican border, and to bolster the U.S. military presence in Israel. In 2017, after the U.S. military withdrawal from Europe due to budgetary constraints, most of the American overseas power projection is in Fortress Sinai and fighting the Bolivarian guerrillas seeking to overthrow the U.S. allied governments in Colombia and Cuba.
The three remaining bank holding companies in the U.S. have not been nationalised. Instead, they operate in close conjunction with the U.S. Treasury Secretary and the Federal Reserve, whose power now eclipses the President's, except when it comes to ordering military attacks against terrorist targets. Some quietly call this government/banking interface "fascism," but the official phrase is "rationalism."
The blogosphere is mostly silent on this. Following the massive bankruptcies of traditional newspapers and broadcast media networks after 2010, most information is received via the Internet. However, congolomeration of service providers sparked by the Internet Freedom Act of 2013 eliminated low-cost blog hosting like that provided by Google. With the barriers to entry now too high for most individuals to afford, and national security laws ensnaring others, the raucous blogosphere is now orderly. And corporate.
Gold is selling in the range of $2,000 U.S. per ounce on overseas markets where trade is allowed, but only 750-900 euros. While officially legal to trade on paper, supplies of physical gold coins are hard to obtain and regarded as vaguely unpatriotic in the U.S. It's the province of nut cases to the general public, and to mention owning it is to invite predators.
The crime rate soared when the official unemployment rate hit 14.3% and the U-6 was estimated to be closer to 20%. Armed massacres by disgruntled husbands, discharged veterans of the Muslim wars and sacked workers are everyday occurrences that make the local news, but not the national. More than half of America carries guns in open holsters for safety. "Death blossom" shooting events where one person starts firing, and then there's a melee of follow-on blasting, are now part of urban life. That, plus the collapse of the nursing home and hospital industries, along with the reduced birth rate due to womens' reluctance to be burdened with children, have reduced the official U.S. population to 275 million. Some say the official statistics are a lie, and that the die-off of old people has actually put the population closer to 250 million.
Aside from the suicide bombing spree during the 2010 U.S. election campaign, America has been free from international terrorist activity within its borders. Bombings and shootings at U.S. linked businesses overseas have reduced American corporate presence in the world. Most corporations are multinational now anyway, such as the food companies that focus on exporting American food products to China. The Chinese, their environment wrecked by pollution and their U.S. dollar holdings dwindling in value, are trying to recoup their investments from "Breadbasket America." The part not affected by the global warming droughts, that is. Some say that's why food, aside from that grown in the ever-present "Obama gardens," is so expensive.
Oil is hard to come by for non-farming uses, due to the $200 U.S. cost per barrel. It's much cheaper in euros, of course, after the Middle East and Russian producers began widely trading the commodity in that currency. The global economic power axis has shifted to Europe, where the E.U. and Russia joust for economic supremacy and influence in the border states...
What will I be doing? Popcorn, mate. Eating lots of popcorn in my catbird seat...
I think there will be a general malaise amongst most people as all the Obama plans aren't realized, things are going to fall flat after the initial euphoria wears-off.
Of course, there may be the so-called youth corps marching around in their cute O-uniforms attempting to make us better. But they will get bored and go back to Nintendo and texting soon enough, they are the born to be lazy and immersed in the tech culture. No ditch digging and road building for them.
I do think the radical left may attempt to sorta-rule-us-all, all the adults that didn't have kids, may now have a proxy in the new Obama-order. This could be simply be do-gooders organizing against the new anti-socialists, to possibly something like the inquisition, as they go after freedom seekers.
The freedom seekers are going to be the resistance, maybe they'll just go by the name of patriots, whatever. But they will form the underground and aboveground dislike of all the new government rules and regulations, designed to get the country economically back.......to former glory?
I think this will ultimately create an new economic class of people, a new tier will come into being, that of the people whom simply drop-out of the system, and make their own. It is going to happen as government controls limit the survival of solvent and responsible people have their property and incomes confiscated.
I see this new economy as a go-around of the economic system as it is now. I think trading-clubs and barter-groups will start to emerge, possibly without even using money. They are going to use "credits" of some type or "honors", thus avoiding the present system of undue taxation. Hell, there may even be a full-out tax-revolt.
Basically what I'm saying is all this bail-out sh*t of saving banks, insurance companies and any other government/corporate partnership is just going to fail. So in my humble opinion the people are going to get really tired of the bullsh*t, sooner or later and then the change will come.
I also predict, flying cars!
I agree with the first anon about the NWO.
+ the world still be caught up in WW3.
It will be the worst time to be an American since the great depression. Scratch that. It will be the worst time to be a human on planet earth.
I agree with the Obama is a one termer folks. He promised way too much and will deliver way too little.
Ron Paul is the real hope and change guy, but I'm just not sure if he's "electable." If McCain can't get his party's support, how could Paul, who isn't even a Republican at heart?
I just "hope" that the truth about 9/11, the Housing/Financial World ponzi scheme, Bilderburg Group, Petro Dollar fraud, Climate change myth, alternative energy artificial blockage, Bush and Cheney War Crimes uncovered and the David Stern manipulation of the 2007 Suns v Spurs playoff series finally comes out.
9/11 = Inside Job
Housing/Financial Ponzi= no brainer
Bilderburg = even BO is in da' club
Petro Dollar = crime against man
Climate change = myth
Bush & Cheney = war criminal scum
David Stern = glorified bookie and confirmed hater of Jerry Colangelo, Phoenix, AZ and the Suns
PS: GO CARDINALSSSS!!!!!!!
(my seat from 9 rows up behind the Cards bench was so sweet this Sunday, I can't even describe it)
got my in house hydrogen from sunlight or heat or cold working and produce my own fuels for transports and house electric but must empty the "bladder" as if it was a cow needing milking every day????????, no because self suficiency and independence and self sustainability is anti new world order ruling class profiteering power that be.....
Keith, Obama's farewell address will occur on January 19, 2013. He can't be re-elected since he will be blamed for the massed joblessness of an America deep in the Great Depression II. America will be a land of weekly riots over unemployment and welfare payments. Unemployment will become so large that the government will give up on hiding it like it does now, so the stats will swell into the 25% range. Housing will range from free (and almost unlivable by current standards), to subsidized (and decrepit), to middle-classed enclaves under constant assault by burglars or "neighborhood guards", and finally to the tiny minority of housing that is worth having (which will be monopolized by the wealthy).
Food will be expensive, and people will still be considering putting gardens everywhere to compensate. (After all, Americans are delusional morons and are VERY slow to understand and act on any bad circumstances.)
Energy will be expensive, and people will be forced to use a lot less.
White-collar crime will be the secret scourge of the nation, since many employees will be so desperate for work that they will do ANYTHING their employers tell them to do, and those employers will find the nation to be so crumbling that crime will become too profitable to ignore.
The 2012 election will be won in a clear landslide by some Republican goodball who will appeal to the inner greed and fear of each American. I don't know what national event this Fascist will focus on, but he'll drape himself in a flag made of the cloth of greed and fear. He'll have all the answers since he will pose each problem as a highly simplified question to which a militant response is his only answer. War and money will be his platform. He'll emphasize that each American should become their own business, to take advantage of tax breaks and become "rich". And Obama will look like a fool without his teleprompter, as he struggles to avoid the truth, that he couldn't fix the Great Depression II since NOBODY COULD. Etc.
Development of a "network website" that will satisfy the need for real media news and information as well as the need for a forum for a new political party. It will consolidate all the mini info sites (blogs) into a cohesive public force with real political power.
Wind and Solar power are finally discredited for the feel-good scam they are and the development and building of hundreds (perhaps thousands) of new smaller super efficient nuclear power plants goes forward on the fast-track because...
Oil and gas shortages in the US are the theme starting in 2010. Norway, Mexico and even Canada decide they better keep these resources for themselves and suspend all exports in the name of National Security.
Global Warming also discredited and is replaced by the fear of a coming ice age. (As evidenced by more and more snow in places like Florida and Southern Africa).
Gold prices to the moon, then governments around the world confiscate private holdings to protect their fiat currencies.
US Defaults on its debt.
US food shortages, resulting in price increases of 300%. Food consumption drops 25% and Americans are thin again.
Wars? As hatred for Americans goes global our bases around the world will be attacked...perhaps on a predetermined date and in a world-wide coordinated fashion. We can only sit back and watch in horror. "Yankee Go Home" will be the world-wide rallying call.
Backyard gardens all the rage. Outbreak of neighbor rage as vegetables gardens are raided by hungry children.
Neighborhood watch committees established and they are armed.
Entitlements are gone, over, finito. We are on our own. That's a relief.
Worldwide food and money shortages result in huge decreases in the birth rate over the next 10 years.
Best of all...parents without jobs will stay at home and take care of their children and elderly parents (as it should be...neither should be outsourced).
Who'll be president-elect?
I'm laying 50/50 odds on their not being a federal government that anyone cares about by then.
* What cool things will have been invented?
Nothing, the age of invention is finished.
* US deficit and debt?
I can't count that high
* Dow?
0, after the collapse of 90% of the corporations on the index all stock markets are shuttered.
* Gold price?
14 goats.
* Fate of the banks?
Local banks only, we've seen the end of giant country wide banks at this point.
* Amero?
No. Gold goins or barter is all that is used.
* Wars?
Resource wars to start with, then tapering off after there is no oil to fly the planes.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Nothing, the internet has been offline for years.
* Entitlements rationalized?
If by "rationalized" you mean "no one is paying them, and besides which dollars are good only as toliet tissue"
then yes.
* Will Obama be there?
Nope.
* Terrorist strikes?
No, after the collapse of our overseas empire and being reduced to a farming civilization the terrorists lose
interest in blowing up empty skyscrapers.
* Price of oil?
Out of reach of all but the richest.
* Gay marriage?
As long as the neighbors don't mind.
* Will there be newspapers?
No, the newspapers will be long gone, as will mass manufactured paper.
* What will you be doing?
Farming, like everyone else.
Some great comments here! I'd be particularly interested if the anon commenter of January 20, 2009 12:01 AM and Bukko in Australia got a lot of their ideas from any particular place.
I hang out at peakoil.com and there aren't any really interesting predictions like those.
BTW Keith, there is no way US treasuries will be finding legitimate buyers 8 years from now. It's going to be the federal reserve "buying" the treasuries right up to the revolution or the utter destruction of the dollar. And one of those events WILL happen within the next 8 years.
The American Idiocracy will elect "Jesus Morales Suarez Quintanila Taquito Chimichangas" for president, since 80% of America will be Mexican.
4th of July will be replaced by 5 de Maio, and the eagle by the donkey. Mustache will be mandatory.
I hear the world will end 12/21/2012, if that's the case a smoldering wasteland.
However, it's more along the lines of Skynet is created run by the Chinesse. They send the 500,000,000 single males to the US and proclaim, "all your bitches are belong to us". The Democrats agree because they have no bitches other then barney frank.
* Who'll be president-elect?
Jesse Ventura-Palin (re-election baby!)
* What cool things will have been invented?
Who knows/who cares? Consumerism will be dead, right?
* US deficit and debt?
Whatever number the chinese masters will allow.
* Dow?
Sky is the limit baby!
* Gold price?
Got gold? Not you, you filthy world citizen!
* Fate of the banks?
Gods. They will own everything, including your DNA rights.
* Amero?
Pfft....sooo 2009. We'll have a one world currency!
* Wars?
Of course.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Sex, reality sex and more sex.
* Entitlements rationalized?
Chuckle...
* Will Obama be there?
Shhhh....
* Terrorist strikes?
Of course...staged. Its the only way to keep the sheeple quivering.
* Price of oil?
Who cares. We're gonna be green, right? ....right?
* Scientific discoveries?
Obama voters have a single neuron.
* Gay marriage?
I prefer a tres a moige
* Will there be newspapers?
No man...get with it.
* What will you be doing?
Who the f knows and who the f cares.
If you've ever read "Atlas Shrugged", you pretty much know what the future looks like...
Petraeus will enter the White House in triumph on 1/18/13.
* Who'll be president-elect?
USA will be partly Balkanised or on the verge, so there will be multiple presidents.
* What cool things will have been invented?
Stem cell technology will allow tissue and organ replacement (if you can afford it)
GM crops will be emerging as a new green revolution- landscapes are transformed into thickets of toxic super weeds needing centralised industrial processing to be edible. Again Asia leads the way, after a political regime shift in China (very messy).
Fusion will still be "50 years away"
* US deficit and debt?
Long since rendered irrelevant. USA defaults on debts, as does everyone else. More limited global trade networks restart amid general climate of protectionism.
* Dow?
Meaningless- the composition of companies making it up will radically shift.
* Gold price?
5-10k/oz depending on currency shifts, central banking policies
* Fate of the banks?
Nationalised- all the crooks in government and finance pile into the same boat.
* Amero?
No- incompatible with the process of regional fragmentation. Euro goes the same way.
* Wars?
India and Pakistan have a nuclear "accident". Everyone is horrified enough for it to not escalate. Weapons stocks continue to be worn down for domestic power production.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Nothing as interesting as in the heyday of the 2000s. Government controls increase, penalties rise as the ability to enforce the rules drops. TPTB put on anything to keep the masses zombified at minimal cost. Access to the net is made much less equitable. Anti-internet/tv culture springs up.
* Entitlements rationalized?
Reduced to basic subsistence. Quality of processed food drops drastically leading to acute nutritional epidemics. Food gardening strong where possible.
* Will Obama be there?
People do their best to forget him- hope turned to despair all too quickly. At best he will be rolling around in a wheel chair somewhere after a botched assassination attempt.
* Terrorist strikes?
Only domestic ones in the USA as some people resist the increasing authoritarian (but increasingly practically weakened) central powers. Likewise overseas.
* Price of oil?
Rationed and unreliable
* Scientific discoveries?
China and India plow on with genetic engineering, but do it with tinkering and audacity rather than theories and understanding. They get better results that way. New eugenics in Asia sets stage for new genetic arms race between nations.
Concentrating solar thermal scaled up earlier and refined but net energy is still quite poor compared to fossil fuels. Enough to keep mobile communications and lighting going at best.
* Gay marriage?
A social backlash against the personal freedom that went with economic recklessness drives social standards back in many areas, but responses are highly varied by region. Don't ask, don't tell, don't parade is the norm for all minorities.
* Will there be newspapers?
Smaller local ones will have a minor resurgence as control of the info on the net increases, and reliability of the grid falters.
* What will you be doing?
Ill be 40, growing most of my own family's food, selling a little, making small change on the side helping people grow their own. I should be teaching within biking distance if that system is still in place, but the numbers of kids coming through will keep dropping unless birth control becomes inaccessible. I'll be grateful in retrospect for deciding to abandon the university sector (now collapsed and honed down for the children of the elite) in favor of highschool (still supported to some degree for the masses).
Things to think about
* Who'll be president-elect?
Some Mexican, Alvarez something.
* What cool things will have been invented?
DIY stem cell experimentation kits and nanotech experimentation kits.
* US deficit and debt?
Oh f_ck.
* Dow?
What?
* Gold price?
Big.
* Fate of the banks?
Nationalized.
* Amero?
Who cares?
* Wars?
Constant.
* What's on the Internet tonight?
Porn, advertising, viruses.
* Entitlements rationalized?
Yeah, all nonexistent.
* Will Obama be there?
There'll be a thing like Lenins Tomb in D.C. cept it'll be O'Bummer's assasinated body mummified within.
* Terrorist strikes?
Why would they bother? There'll be no rich Whities left in USA by then, they'll all be emigrated to Australia. Think about it, huge natural resorces proximity to Asian and indian marked, wide ocean to stop those teeming millions from border-hopping. There'll be a huge white-flight brain-drain money-drain from US and UK to Australia.
* Price of oil?
That's a difficult one.
* Scientific discoveries?
If this was an excercise in optimism I's say we will all be living like the Jetsons, but fact is there'll be way less money available for science.
* Gay marriage?
Ewwwwww...
* Will there be newspapers?
Yeah, else what we goin to wrap our garbage in? Stoopid question.
* What will you be doing?
Growin my own vegies & feeding chickens in Australia.
The 7 year Tribulation will probably have started -- it'll make the Holocaust look like a joyride, folks. The Tribulation starts with the antichrist signing a peace treaty with Israel -- mid way (3.5 years later) he breaks it and look out, world. In order to engage in commerce, people will be required to take the mark of the beast. Those who won't will be executed. People will be hiding in caves, numbering each day remaining during that 7 year period. Need more info? Read the Book of Revelation and have a good concordance nearby. Obama's messianic cult appeal of today (2009) will be amaturish compared to the antichrist's attraction to the masses when antichrist arrives on the scene. Look for the one world government and the one world religion. Believing Christians will have been raptured and evil will be the order of the day. Look for signs in the sun, moon and stars for events preceeding the rapture. Great tsuanamis and earthquakes. Look for the events described in Ezekiel 38. It'll be one heck of a wild ride for those remaining on planet earth in those days. Look for a political system that breaks into 10 divisions, from which antichrist emerges as supreme leader.
All you Goldbugs out there, remember one thing. You are able to own gold only by permission of the "crown". It was an executive order signed by Prez Ford that gave you the privilege to own gold. Do not forget that! Yes, I am a goldbug too, and i do hold some. I strongly recommend Silver, even with the current $4 premium. I surmise that they will post a new order outlawing possession of bullion for reasons of national security. The current "legal" (not lawful)value of an ounce of gold is $44 an ounce. Look it up!! They will honor the constitutional due process of property and reimburse you only the "legal" value. I think they'll pay you $50 an ounce. Look at one of your current (1986 to present) gold eagles and notice that it says $50! I think once this thing gets into high gear, the FED will need all the gold they van get thier hands on to ride this thing right up till the end. In the process, they will strip us of anything they can. When you invest in precious metals to secure your own survial, don't forget one of the most valuable metals out there: LEAD!!!
A very tangible and tradeble asset
could very well be #8 bird shot and .22long rounds. Both can be used for some sort of defense...but most importantly they can put food on the table.
Imagine the barter value of a tiny box of a 50count .22long in your hands at a trade situation. You'll have the upper hand!
See ya in the salt mines Ward!!!
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