June 4, 2009

20 years ago


Bukko_in_Australia said...

If those had been American tanks, and that was an Iraqi resister (or even an American one, when the Summer of Rage 2010 comes to a ghetto near you) do you think the tanks would have even slowed down?

(That being said, I just finished reading a 20th anniversary article by an Aussie reporter who recalls seeing lots of protestors' internal organs mashed into the bitumen by tank treads. That famous footage was the exception, not the rule...)

Governments can be overthrown peacefully, as they were in the British Raj and the Soviet Bloc, only when the government has enough human decency not to slaughter its own population. The Chinese fascists are still around because they were willing to do the killing. Which way will the U.S. go when people are finally so fed up with the financier-fascist ruling system that the masses decide to do something about it?

Ross said...

I remember this interrupting Garfield and Friends. That's about it.

What happened to this guy?

duarte said...

Behold, Socialism. Robin Hood gone bad.

Anonymous said...

Medical bills underlie 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies

Yet auto & municipal unions are what we focus our rancor on.

The UAW biggest sticking point? Health benefits.

Medicare part D giveaway to Big Pharma; FDA intercepting Canadian-sold yet American-manufactured cheap mail order drugs...

How bad it is?

The industry offered to trim $2 Trillion/ten years as an opening bid to stave off regulation.

Some rubes probably even pondered that in good faith.

"...the private sector is eager to appear cooperative as Congress tries to pass major health-care legislation..."


casey said...

that little chinaman had brass balls.I wonder where he is today?

Anonymous said...

Bukko_in_Australia said...
'when the Summer of Rage 2010 comes to a ghetto near you'

Did the Summer of Rage get possponed a year, due to the strong desire down under to go first?

Anonymous said...

They should have crushed that punk, he’s a capitalist.

Banana Republicrat said...

Ross, if you REALLY want to know...


Randy said...

To all you smarty pants thinking of dumping the greenback cause the grass is greener in other places,
Keefer has a kind reminder here that the Tanks are greener too in other places.

Anonymous said...


Did the UN approve?

Anonymous said...

Good Thing for the slope I wasn't driving that lead tank or he would be flat as a pancake and dead as a mackarel.

Khe Sahn (for all of you tough-guy keyboarders out there, thats in a place named Vietnam where they shit in an open ditch and sell their sisters for $ 5. five dolla) Survivor



Statement before the US House of Representatives, June 3, 2009

I rise to oppose this unnecessary and counter-productive resolution regarding the 20th anniversary of the incident in China’s Tiananmen Square. In addition to my concerns over the content of this legislation, I strongly object to the manner in which it was brought to the floor for a vote. While the resolution was being debated on the House floor, I instructed my staff to obtain a copy so that I could read it before the vote. My staff was told by no less than four relevant bodies within the House of Representatives that the text was not available for review and would not be available for another 24 hours. It is unacceptable for Members of the House of Representatives to be asked to vote on legislation that is not available for them to read!

As to the substance of the resolution, I find it disturbing that the House is going out of its way to meddle in China’s domestic politics, which is none of our business, while ignoring the many pressing issues in our own country that definitely are our business.

This resolution “calls on the People’s Republic of China to invite full and independent investigations into the Tiananmen Square crackdown, assisted by the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights and the International Committee of the Red Cross…” Where do we get the authority for such a demand? I wonder how the US government would respond if China demanded that the United Nations conduct a full and independent investigation into the treatment of detainees at the US-operated Guantanamo facility?

The resolution “calls on the legal authorities of People’s Republic of China to review immediately the cases of those still imprisoned for participating in the 1989 protests for compliance with internationally recognized standards of fairness and due process in judicial proceedings.” In light of US government’s extraordinary renditions of possibly hundreds of individuals into numerous secret prisons abroad where they are held indefinitely without charge or trial, one wonders what the rest of the world makes of such US demands. It is hard to exercise credible moral authority in the world when our motto toward foreign governments seems to be “do as we say, not as we do.”

While we certainly do not condone government suppression of individual rights and liberties wherever they may occur, why are we not investigating these abuses closer to home and within our jurisdiction? It seems the House is not interested in investigating allegations that US government officials and employees approved and practiced torture against detainees. Where is the Congressional investigation of the US-operated “secret prisons” overseas? What about the administration’s assertion of the right to detain individuals indefinitely without trial? It may be easier to point out the abuses and shortcomings of governments overseas than to address government abuses here at home, but we have the constitutional obligation to exercise our oversight authority in such matters. I strongly believe that addressing these current issues would be a better use of our time than once again condemning China for an event that took place some 20 years ago.

gutless and lazy said...

Are those American tanks, busting into Baghdad 'liberating' our friends, being showered with flowers and candy?

Or those Chinese military tanks threatening their own citizens?

Hard to tell the difference, really.

Dammerung said...

Puh~lease, Keith, don't patronize us by pretending you give a damn about foreign barbarians.

Do you say anything about the 2 MILLION Swat Valley refugees created by the Pakistani "government" at America's behest?


Do you say anything about the terrorist attacks by Jundallah in Iran (linked to Mossad, MI-5, and the CIA)? 30 civilians killed in the bombing of a holy site?


Do you really think we'll drink your crocodile tears about this decades-old incident?

Anonymous said...

Hey keith, can you do a tread on the state of California. I am heading out there for a five week vacation to my parents organic farm and it should prove interesting. How long does the California have before the riots start?

Angry Leprechaun said...

Hmmmm! This day makes me angry. Our forefathers understood democracy. They understood that the people were in control and no the government. We are getting closer to seeing something like this happen in the US. Whether Bush or Obama, our government is out of control, and they still want more power.

Ross said...

Thanks Banana Repulicrat,
I'll watch that when I get home.

Randy said...

Key difference between then and now is that China is no more severely poor with Russian made mean lookin low performing tanks.

Today they have partnerships with all modern technology companies and have the same sophisticated tanks we have.

Another reason de-coupling can not happen.
When a company goes down all partners go with it, as seen with Chrysler and GM.

Wait; they just bought Hummer at a time when mankind is on the verge experiencing the replacement of the internal combustion engine.

They are blowing vast amounts of money everyway everyday; the Beijing Olympics is a fine example of spending many many times more then it brought in.

Perhaps we are seeing the peek of China’s easy money from Americas (and global) housing / re-financing craze, and they’ll be back to marching in the center of town with Russian made mean lookin low performing tanks.

swannster river said...

Speculative Bets Against The Dollar Highest Since July 15 2008


You know what that could mean!

Anonymous said...

Randy said:
'Wait; they just bought Hummer at a time when mankind is on the verge experiencing the replacement of the internal combustion engine.'

Very true, China has been acting a lot like the oil rich Arab Queens on a buying spree for the past several years, but I don’t think they have oil.

JAWS said...

Westerners aren't invited into the Square at night. In '95, I and a couple other tourists snuck out of our hotel and went back to see it at night. What a difference from daytime. Nobody around at all. We went down some stairs, under the Square and got stuck in the middle of the bunker for the professional beggars. Legless, armless, eyeless beggars bedding down for the night. Had to step over them and around them to get to the other side of the Square and up some more stairs into a McDonalds. Ha! What a trip.

Anonymous said...

Post a little about the human rights violations of the wahhabi islamists, unless that would draw too much attention to the hypocrisy of your hero Obama? I am in no way defending China, but they aren't the only oppressive state out there. At least the Chinese don't stone women to death for dishonoring their families by being raped....

Lost Cause said...

Four dead in Ohio.

abb said...

Hey king of hyperbole, that photo is the propaganda. One man standing alone against an army.

Go research the real story. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese flooded the streets and stopped those tanks from rolling forward. They stood there day and night until the Chinese government pulled back and reorganized. There is a movie of it on You Tube.

Dammerung said...

Anonymous said: >>Post a little about the human rights violations of the wahhabi islamists, unless that would draw too much attention to the hypocrisy of your hero Obama?

Nothing is more insulting than Obama giving a speech to the Muslim world about peace and freedom in Egypt, of all places. The American-backed Mubarak regime is an enemy to its own people and the world. Remember making fun of the Egyptian authorities killing pigs over "swine flu?" Well, figure out why they really did it. It was in order to starve and impoverish Coptic Christians who rely on the pigs as a major source of income. Copts can't even repair their churches without orders from the state governor. Muslims are oppressed by the regime as well - Mubarak enforces the Israeli starvation blockade of the Palestinians. Mubarak sent armed goons to beat the crap out of Egyptians protesting hunger and poverty. Mubarak is scum, and Obama is scum-by-association.

Anonymous said...

Maybe America should mind it's own business and worry about it's own crimes?

Remember this one?

Kent State Shootings.

And how about "Operation Northwoods"? How many of you know about the plans of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Military to blowup American airplanes to frame Cuba as terrorists as a pretext for an invasion of Cuba?

Operation Northwoods and other crimes of the US government.


Anonymous said...

Dammerung, that's exactly what I mean.... Obama just hasn't told Keith that he has to love the Chinese government, yet. He will probably stop posting about big, bad China once Obama makes his way over to China to kiss their asses. Should happen any day now, considering how badly we need them to keep buying our worthless Treasuries. Too bad Obama can't claim Chinese ancestry as well. But, I bet that speech will stress that he lived in Indonesia and point out how many Asians he knew growing up in Hawaii.